šŸ”„ Hot Freaks: the Guided By Voices Listening Club (Final results time! 40 album ranking list! Freedom! - post 2160)

This is where they kick up a notch for me. Each album from here on out is worthwhile.

The lyrics are back on track, Bob is actually writing songs again and the band are ripping. My main gripe is that Bobā€™s vocals could be better (like if theyā€™d put 10 minutes more into ā€˜The Disconnected Citizenā€™ it could have been way better).

Free Agents is an all time pollard classic as well. The last 30 seconds are kind of the platonic ideal of a Pollard track

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Yeah, Iā€™ve never understood the love for this one. Itā€™s an okay tune, but those vocals make it sound like some goofy Cash Rivers-parody thing :man_shrugging:

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I like the chord progression and the melody. The lyrics, for me, are Pollard on peak form. I really like when he does something totally abstract. And the way it resolves at the end on the ā€˜taking you down thereā€™ section is really beautiful imo.

But yeah I think the vocals let the song down pretty bad. Maybe itā€™s a range thing as the verses start very low, but then the ā€˜chorusā€™ is quite high.

Itā€™s a permanent issue in the second reformation era. Like even the lo-fi stuff from the 90s clearly has so much thought put into the production (especially propeller), even if itā€™s not to achieve a nice sounding recording.

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TBH though this Tim Heidecker bit he does a Pollard impression which completely dismantles my defence of late stage GBV

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Hahahaha. Love this so much.

I think itā€™s just the process is different now. Basically, the lofi era just involved them making tapes and tapes of sketches, versions and alt. versions etc. and Bob would spend countless hours rejigging and messing around with what was recorded until finally it was time to say ā€˜Thatā€™s it! Those are the songs and the sequence!ā€™ Nowadays, itā€™s done a bit more conventionally where he does demos, sends them to the rest of the band, they record their bits, he goes and chucks the vocals on, then they put it out. Like, there isnā€™t that process of going through old tapes, noticing the charm certain tracks have, and then using those cuts.

I think we all have different ideas about where we think Bob is phoning it in. Haha! It might depend a bit on the various ways we are listening to stuff I guess.

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I wouldnā€™t even say he phones it in, I think heā€™s much more interested in making art quickly and getting his ideas out of his head. So his worl has a dashed off quality which can be amazing, or it can result in some pretty dismal work.

Or it can lead to something like ā€˜The Disconnected Citizenā€™ or ā€˜How Can a Plum be Perfectedā€™ where thereā€™s a totally perfect, emotionally resonant track there, just covered up by a weird vocal performance.

The kind of ā€˜casual geniusā€™ part of Pollard is clearly why we BobHeads love him, and why heā€™s been able to build such an enduring fanbase. So itā€™s a bit odd of me to ā€˜complainā€™ about it, but it is frustrating to think something could have been even better!

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As a fully paid up member of the ā€œplease do some more vocal takes Bobā€ club - I love The Disconnected Citizen and what heā€™s doing on it. Makes it stand out in a good way, unusual is a positive at this stage of the GBV journey

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Two of the standouts!

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I just remembered - this was the album whereby Bob revisited a bunch of old discarded songs, wasnā€™t it? Iā€™m pretty sure it was one of the 2021 releasesā€¦?

If so that makes this album all the more impressive, if what we are hearing are essentially rejects from that slightly uneven 2012-2014 era being fleshed out & given a new lease of life.

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I think so yeah, remember them marketing it as them repeating the Bee Thousand approach

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Earth Man Blues!

2021 was a good year for GBV I reckon. I really loved the first Cub Scout Bowling Pins EP. And I think it serves as a good companion piece to Earth Man Blues. They, along with Clang Clang Ho, had a similar vibe ā€“ and made for some decent tunes.

Made Man is a great opener. Love that snare sound. I think I read that due to covid they had to record all the drums in a parking lot ā€“ which is pretty cool. The record sounds instantly great to me. The Disconnected Citizen is an altogether more intimate thing. Bob takes an almost baritone approach to the vocals through a massive delay. I love how he sounds here. And then the synth strings etc. give the track such majesty. Itā€™s a real gem.

The Batman Sees The Ball is almost like modern GBV 101. It chugs along. Itā€™s solid enough. I donā€™t think thereā€™s enough of a hook in the riff for it to be repeated so much, but itā€™s OK. Dirty Kids School is much more interesting. Has a 70s Bowie/Alice Cooper vibeā€¦ sorta glam or something. And then changes it up. But it works. Again the production is spot on. Bob isnā€™t pushing his vox at all but I dig how everythingā€™s balanced.

Trust Them Now is a solid single. It hurtles along but not in a particularly punky way. I guess youā€™d put it in the Power Pop category with all the ooos and ahhs. I dig it. Lights Out In Memphis starts out with a pretty promising dusty, open riff, before dialing it down to a very minimal verse. Itā€™s one of late-GBVā€™s prog epics and it kinda works. The orchestral bits kind of save it but I want it to end after about 3:30, haha!

Free Agents gets things going again. A 2-minute almost hit featuring some fantastic lyrics: ā€˜Never been to heaven but Iā€™ve heard good things alriiiiiiiiiiiiight!ā€™ Beauty! Sunshine Girl Hello is more like a Cub Scouts track. Kind of a silly sixties thing. More ooos! Very listenable, if a bit throwaway. Wave Starter is cool. Kind of Frank Black-esque. A total blink-and-you-miss-it tune, but itā€™s lovely perfect stuff. The frivolity returns with Ant Repellent. Itā€™s silly. But enjoyable! Margaret Middle School is another one of those near-perfect, tight, album tunes Bob can do. It could be off of any of his albums. But itā€™s great.

I Bet Hippy is back to a psychedelic acoustic thing. Itā€™s got a nice ambience, but Iā€™m not sold on it hook-wise. Itā€™s more of an EP track or B-side quality for me. Not bad by any means. Test Pilot opens with a tight post-punk thing but it descends into something a little more turgid and run-of-the-mill somehow. It doesnā€™t outstay itā€™s welcome though. How Can A Plumb Be Perfected is a curio. Again a bit Bowie-esque in vocal delivery but with a big reverb on it. If it actually was from the 60s or 70s itā€™d probably be held up as something very interesting, but buried as the penultimate track here on GBVā€™s seven billionth album itā€™s sort of understandable that itā€™s a bit overlooked. It leads into the closing track really nicely, though. Childs Play is great. Really tight. And a cool chorus, before some wild guitar work. Really cool closer, if a bit short!

So yeah, I love Earth Man Blues. It hangs together really well and balances the 4 Ps really well too. The relisten today reminds me of how frivolous a lot of it is. They have a lot of fun with some of these tracks and, although they donā€™t always land (The Batman Sees The Ball and the latter parts of Lights Out In Memphis), I quite like how playful they are on this record. Itā€™s a goodun!

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Onto Styles We Paid For

I initially put my name down to review this when it was coming out but didnā€™t get an advance copy and then just never got around to finishing writing it.

Hoped it might be another glorious return to form, but thought it more likely that it would be frustrating and annoying like Iā€™d found Mirrored Aztec and much of the 2019 stuff. Had started forming the review narrative in my head on the latter basis and how they were still releasing too much dross and even covid wasnā€™t stopping them.

In the end, the album was, well, fine. Nothing to get too excited about but nothing to get annoyed about either. Relatively solid and likeable, if unexceptional.

Revisiting for the first time since then and have the same impression. Not much Iā€™d necessarily revisit but a decent enough effort without being too wilfully obtuse.

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Iā€™ve given Earth Man Blues a couple more goes and yep, itā€™s pretty good! Nothing exceptional, but a very reasonable step up from Styles which in itself was a big improvement on Mirrored Aztec. The band had built up a decent head of steam once again by 2021, it seems. Thisā€™ll probably bag a 7/10 from me, I reckon.

Standout tracks:

Trust Them Now - probably about the one millionth anthemic rocker which Bob had penned by this point, but this is just sublime IMO and is another clear modern-era GBV classic. A wonderfully melodic, driving rocker with hooks for days. Love Bobā€™s double-tracked vocals on here, too.

Sunshine Girl Hello - is Sunshine Boogie a thing? Because if so, this is it! Great sixties-flavoured pop ditty with a nice bluesy feel in places. Would love to hear the psych track which bookends the song, too.

Margaret Middle School - Iā€™ve been a bit critical of Bobā€™s vocals on a couple of EMB tunes elsewhere on the thread, so itā€™s only fair I give him praise where itā€™s due as well. This is one of his best vocal performances in a while, and really helps elevate this bouncy, fun little stomper to new heights.

The Batman Sees the Ball - love the tasty, nagging riff which winds it ways through this, plus those slightly eerie backing vocals which appear halfway through. A snappy, up-tempo highlight.

5/10 for me. One really good song in disconnected citizen, nothing terrible although Memphis should be half as long.

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dig these earth blues maaaan

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  • Made Man
  • The Disconnected Citizen
  • The Batman Sees The Ball
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Donā€™t all vote at once, everybody! :laughing:

still figuring out this forum, had no idea weā€™d move on.

EARTH MAN BLUES only two in 2021 for these slackers and - and probably about time too - this is a loose ā€˜rock operaā€™ about a character called Harold.

Itā€™s fucking boring. Like, itā€™s not trying to be. Lots of the usual problems arenā€™t here - Pollard sings decently, the songs are completely written, the pompous aspect of rock operas are neatly sidestepped - it just has a total death of personality and originality. Who are these players? What are they bringing to this form that 1000s arenā€™t already? Itā€™s so polite and clearly recorded via email - everything sounds out of the box and bland. First time my patience really was tested here and nearly jabbed it off. 3.5

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