The death of the RTS genre is Dota’s biggest crime

But is that OPTIMAL, Ducky?! I need to know.

Nothing is truly optimal, depends on how your brain brains and your fingers fing :slight_smile:

I just do whats fun, especially as I aint playing RA 2 PVP

Not sure I’ve ever managed to squeeze a second’s enjoyment from an RTS game.

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Tiberian Sun was one of about four games I had on my first PC (with Grim Fandango, GTA 1/1969 and Abe’s Oddyssey) and I loved it. It was like Dune 2 on the Amiga times a million

Brilliant, brilliant games. That tesla coil noise…

Bzzzzzzztt! Unit lost… unit lost… unit lost…

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Chaining a bunch of prism towers and one shotting tanks is my low key greatest feeling

The ultimate irony is that everyone hated single unit missions and yet when League of Legends released it got a playerbase larger than every RTS combined x like 10 or something

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It’s certainly one of them.

Other RTS games that I enjoyed: Homeworld (less so for the battles, and more so for the visuals/music) and Battlezone, which was probably my favourite game of the early 3D card-era.

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I need to download Rise of Nations and Empire:Earth
The former is on gamepass. Empire Earth though :thinking:

i only ever played the first one on the Saturn, and i borrowed it off a mate who had scratched the disc to pieces so it had trouble actually loading levels and i couldn’t actually complete the game even if i wanted to. pretty sure i was terrible at it too, and would mostly resort to cheating, iirc there was a cheat to just get nukes which would get used if i wasn’t doing well.

i did like it though, but like with a few of the games on the leaderboard, i don’t think it helped that i played the console version instead of the PC version

The console versions were kinda difficult to play, especially before analog sticks and rota wheel interfaces became normal on console. RA 3 and C&C 3 were both perfectly fine, if sub optimal, on console

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Also you can totally see the decline of the RTS genre just looking at the polls.

The C&C games were still considered among the most popular RTS games up until 4 and yet… look at the numbers. The genre dived off a cliff in the mid 00s and never recovered!

I also partially blame the increased popularity of consoles and the pc gaming dark age (lets say 2003 - 2008) where it looked like PC Gaming was going to outright DIE before the Free2play/Steam boom

Would you call the Total War series an RTS? I think that was probably the game that was making all the running during that period.

You’re right about the decline in RTSs going hand in hand with the decline in PC gaming too (and genuinely innovative FPS) - it’s a type of game that still hasn’t been nailed on anything other than a mouse/keyboard interface.

Do you think that online competitive play superseding LAN parties made a difference too? I think it might have done.

i developed insane addictions to c&c 3 tiberium wars, kane’s wrath and red alert 3. really hope they do the remasters justice.

i thought c&c red alert 3 did a fine job porting the controls to a console, bit fiddly but easy enough once you got the layout memorised

This might be of use to fans. Works really smooth on my ten year old iMac

https://www.openra.net/

It never survived the rise of the FPS - that’s why we ended up with the mess that was Renegades - everyone wanted to make the next half life/team fortress.

I played command and conquer at my friend’s house and then got red alert for Christmas. So good. I think I had to upgrade my RAM to play it. Probably actually the first game I played online but I was a bit suspicious cause playing games online seemed a bit fanciful.

We’d go to my friends for a week in the summer and play command and conquer generals till about 6am or until (because we used the same copy on each computer) the game would ‘detect a mismatch’ about 6 hours in and freeze up.

I’M THERE!

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