🎵 How Good Are They Really 🎵 ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead

Wonder if we’ll be so divided over this one…

Drake goes bottom 10:

Artist Rating
Aretha Franklin 4.64
Nina Simone 4.57
A Tribe Called Quest 4.56
Kraftwerk 4.50
Neil Young 4.48
Miles Davis 4.42
Alice Coltrane 4.42
Talking Heads 4.39
R.E.M. 4.38
John Coltrane 4.37
Beastie Boys 4.36
Otis Redding 4.34
The Velvet Underground 4.33
The Temptations 4.32
David Bowie 4.31
The Beatles 4.31
Pixies 4.30
Leonard Cohen 4.30
The Cure 4.28
Boards Of Canada 4.28
Björk 4.27
Mogwai 4.24
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds 4.22
Marvin Gaye 4.21
Fugazi 4.21
Tom Waits 4.20
Johnny Cash 4.19
Aphex Twin 4.18
PJ Harvey 4.17
Stevie Wonder 4.17
Four Tet 4.17
Nirvana 4.15
Joy Division 4.15
Radiohead 4.13
The Supremes 4.13
Pavement 4.12
The Four Tops 4.12
Prince 4.11
Wu-Tang Clan 4.11
Cocteau Twins 4.11
Orbital 4.11
Nick Drake 4.10
De La Soul 4.10
The Stooges 4.10
Elliott Smith 4.09
Yo La Tengo 4.09
Pulp 4.08
Public Enemy 4.08
Sonic Youth 4.08
Sleater-Kinney 4.08
Kate Bush 4.07
OutKast 4.07
Portishead 4.03
Super Furry Animals 4.03
Black Sabbath 4.03
Simon & Garfunkel 4.02
Joanna Newsom 4.02
Mclusky 4.02
MF DOOM 4.01
Sufjan Stevens 4.01
The Knife 4.01
My Bloody Valentine 4.01
Run The Jewels 4.00
Sharon Van Etten 4.00
New Order 3.99
Bob Dylan 3.97
Kendrick Lamar 3.97
Wilco 3.97
Low 3.96
Robyn 3.96
Grandaddy 3.96
The Beach Boys 3.93
Jimi Hendrix 3.93
Sigur Rós 3.93
LCD Soundsystem 3.92
Joni Mitchell 3.89
Massive Attack 3.89
Janelle Monáe 3.89
Frank Ocean 3.86
Spiritualized 3.85
Bruce Springsteen 3.84
Deftones 3.84
Future Of The Left 3.84
Siouxsie & The Banshees 3.83
Underworld 3.82
The Kinks 3.82
At The Drive-In 3.82
Guided By Voices 3.82
Deerhunter 3.81
Fucked Up 3.80
Run-D.M.C. 3.78
The Clash 3.77
Dolly Parton 3.77
Pet Shop Boys 3.76
Modest Mouse 3.76
Blondie 3.73
Bright Eyes 3.71
Rage Against The Machine 3.71
Nine Inch Nails 3.70
The National 3.68
Paul Simon 3.68
M.I.A. 3.68
The Ramones 3.67
Spacemen 3 3.67
ABBA 3.66
Fiona Apple 3.66
Kanye West 3.65
Solange 3.65
Arcade Fire 3.64
Mercury Rev 3.63
Blur 3.61
The Magnetic Fields 3.61
N.W.A. 3.61
Beck 3.59
Elvis Costello 3.59
The Smiths 3.57
Beyoncé 3.54
Yeah Yeah Yeahs 3.54
Eels 3.52
Carly Rae Jepsen 3.51
Roxy Music 3.51
Daft Punk 3.50
The Chemical Brothers 3.49
Jimmy Eat World 3.49
Explosions In The Sky 3.49
Bob Marley & The Wailers 3.48
Jeff Buckley 3.47
Teenage Fanclub 3.47
The Flaming Lips 3.46
Hot Chip 3.44
Bon Iver 3.43
Idlewild 3.42
The Fall 3.42
George Michael 3.41
Madonna 3.40
Manic Street Preachers 3.39
Fleetwood Mac 3.39
Queens Of The Stone Age 3.39
Big Thief 3.39
The Postal Service 3.38
The Notorious B.I.G. 3.37
TV On The Radio 3.37
Toots & The Maytals 3.35
The White Stripes 3.34
Supergrass 3.32
Dr. Dre 3.32
Hole 3.31
Squarepusher 3.31
Iggy Pop 3.31
The Decemberists 3.31
The Smashing Pumpkins 3.30
Suede 3.30
Steely Dan 3.29
Elton John 3.28
The Pogues 3.28
Kylie Minogue 3.27
The Specials 3.26
Vampire Weekend 3.26
Doves 3.26
Death Cab For Cutie 3.24
Laura Marling 3.24
James Brown 3.23
Sugababes 3.22
Thin Lizzy 3.22
Hall & Oates 3.21
Rihanna 3.19
The Prodigy 3.18
Led Zeppelin 3.16
Ash 3.16
The Streets 3.16
Pink Floyd 3.15
Pearl Jam 3.15
Taylor Swift 3.14
Jay-Z 3.14
Arctic Monkeys 3.14
Goldfrapp 3.14
Gorillaz 3.13
Interpol 3.12
TLC 3.12
Lana Del Rey 3.11
Los Campesinos! 3.10
The Rolling Stones 3.09
Animal Collective 3.07
Iron Maiden 3.06
Placebo 3.06
The Charlatans 3.06
Destiny’s Child 3.05
Primal Scream 3.04
The Divine Comedy 3.04
Everything Everything 3.04
The Strokes 3.03
Elvis Presley 3.02
System Of A Down 3.02
AC/DC 3.00
The Bee Gees 2.99
Weezer 2.97
Grimes 2.96
Garbage 2.96
Amy Winehouse 2.95
Girls Aloud 2.93
Frank Sinatra 2.92
2Pac 2.91
Elbow 2.91
The Stone Roses 2.90
The Doors 2.89
Franz Ferdinand 2.89
The Mars Volta 2.89
Ariana Grande 2.88
Tool 2.88
Lizzo 2.86
Belle And Sebastian 2.85
Britney Spears 2.85
Metallica 2.81
Green Day 2.81
Madness 2.80
Slipknot 2.80
The Jam 2.75
Basement Jaxx 2.75
Miley Cyrus 2.73
Oasis 2.71
Whitney Houston 2.69
The Verve 2.67
Slayer 2.65
The Sex Pistols 2.63
Lady Gaga 2.61
Queen 2.60
Billy Joel 2.57
Foo Fighters 2.57
U2 2.55
My Chemical Romance 2.54
Justin Timberlake 2.52
Biffy Clyro 2.48
Dire Straits 2.43
The Beautiful South 2.43
Meat Loaf 2.43
Bloc Party 2.41
Cher 2.40
Michael Jackson 2.39
Eminem 2.38
Mariah Carey 2.32
Jamie T 2.32
Coldplay 2.31
IDLES 2.29
Rancid 2.26
Guns N’ Roses 2.26
The Killers 2.22
The Who 2.22
Blink-182 2.21
Muse 2.20
Robbie Williams 2.20
Katy Perry 2.18
Bon Jovi 2.11
No Doubt 2.10
Christina Aguilera 2.09
The Offspring 2.08
Moby 2.06
Adele 2.05
Aerosmith 2.03
Drake 2.02
Kings Of Leon 2.01
The Libertines 1.99
Red Hot Chili Peppers 1.90
The Eagles 1.86
The Spice Girls 1.81
Stereophonics 1.74
KISS 1.73
Kasabian 1.57
Ed Sheeran 1.29

And we move on;

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

0 voters

  • …And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead
  • Madonna
  • Source Tags & Codes
  • Worlds Apart
  • So Divided
  • The Century Of Self
  • Tao Of The Dead
  • Lost Songs
  • IX
  • X: The Godless Void And Other Stories

0 voters

  • Mistakes & Regrets
  • Another Morning Stoner
  • Relative Ways
  • Worlds Apart
  • The Rest Will Follow
  • A Classic Art Showcase
  • Wasted State Of Mind
  • Isis Unveiled
  • Summer Of All Dead Souls
  • Catatonic
  • The Ghost Within
  • The Lie Without A Liar
  • Don’t Look Down

0 voters

I mean they have Madonna which is one of the truly greatest ever albums, they have Source Tags & Codes which is great barring a couple of stinkers and then they just drop off a huge cliff for me.

But still, 5 all day just because Madonna is so important to me.

If I could make a list

Of my mistakes and regrets

I’d put your name on top

And every line after it



Pretty much my sentiments exactly (although I do love a lot of Worlds Apart plus a few songs here and there on the later albums, particularly Century of Self).

When they’re on top form they are probably my favourite live band too (going back to two drummers again would be nice please).


I had never heard of them until DiS, still have never encountered them in the wild, and therefore (like Limmy) I assume it’s some kind of boards in-joke.



(I think Madonna and Source Tags & Codes are probably music that appeals to people who enjoy Sonic Youth and Fugazi. Worlds Apart got a bit too overblown for me so I’m not sure how to class that. But yeah if you actually do enjoy some of the old SY and/or Fugazi then you should play Madonna.)


I do enjoy old Sonic Youth (never heard Fugazi) so I might have a go, although realistically my attempts to listen to proper music at work just end up with me listening to my 30th birthday party playlist.

Never clicked despite being exactly the sort of thing I often like.


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Hah hah! Also I seem to recall you saying your tastes have gone more to big fun pop in recent years and, if so, maybe it’s never going to win you over.

There are certainly a bunch of loved bands I’ve listened to in the last few years I’d have loved to death 20 years back but they are just ‘fine’ now and then I go off and get stuck into some drone nonsense I’d have thrown out the window in the 90s…

5est of 5s for me.

Seems to be received wisdom to stop listening after the first three albums but that’s bollocks, there’s good stuff on every album that isn’t So Divided


Yeah it’ll be interesting to see, I was won over by Grandaddy last year but they’re definitely an outlier these days.


Another in the “lost interest when Worlds Apart was rubs” camp but listened to Madonna for the first time in years the other week and it still sounds wonderful. They were so exciting live around that time, too. Saw them at the tiny Barfly in Camden the night before Reading 2000 and was a fantastic gig. 4.






All from the “ooh they’ve been rubbish since I was 21” era


Got into them around World Apart so still have a soft spot for that era despite some tracks that make me cringe a bit now. Madonna and Source Tags clearly the best but I always listen to a new album and can normally find a few tracks I listen to regularly.

Also just one of the best live bands ever. Messy, noisy, raucous, happy to play the ‘hits’, some of my favourite gig experiences ever.

Remember hearing Mistakes and Regrets for the first time on some music channel on the first iteration of digital TV, I think. It totally grabbed me straight away.

Saw them live at the QMU not long after and it remains the best gig I’ve ever seen, despite being over 20 years ago. Drummer and singer swapping around, kit getting destroyed at the end. Band members jumping onto the crowd. Just exactly what live music should be - every song elevated beyond how it sounds on record.

I’ve seen them since more times than any other act. I’d love to say they’ve been as good as the first time but although they’ve been close there’s also been a few times in the last few years where it has felt very much like they’re going through the motions.

On record, apart from the big two, I thought Worlds Apart was really good and almost every album since then has had a good chunk of very good songs. A best of would be jampacked with excellent songs.

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Thought it was weird when worlds apart got slated by some as it’s a really good album. Some great stuff before it and utter shit afterwards


Saw them live once as a support without knowing anything about them (maybe for Muse on the absolution tour?) and they were really impressive, had two drummers iirc, were super intense. But that the days before streaming so I never followed it up, should try and correct that.

I think this might be the first act on HGATR where I have genuinely never heard a note of their music. 1 only joking


Stupid name, belongs in a Warhammer book not a band. 2/5