🎵 How Good Are They Really 🎵 Black Flag

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65daysofstatic 3.56
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Jimmy Eat World 3.49
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Jeff Buckley 3.47
Teenage Fanclub 3.47
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Hole 3.31
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Elbow 2.91
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Franz Ferdinand 2.89
The Mars Volta 2.89
Ariana Grande 2.88
Tool 2.88
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Paramore 2.88
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Feeder 2.86
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Britney Spears 2.85
Metallica 2.81
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Slipknot 2.80
James 2.78
Foals 2.76
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Alanis Morissette 2.75
Miley Cyrus 2.73
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Fatboy Slim 2.67
Slayer 2.65
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Faithless 2.63
The Levellers 2.63
Lady Gaga 2.61
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The Police 2.59
Billy Joel 2.57
Foo Fighters 2.57
U2 2.55
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Justin Timberlake 2.52
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Editors 2.51
Little Mix 2.49
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Eminem 2.38
Mariah Carey 2.32
Jamie T 2.32
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The 1975 2.28
Rancid 2.26
Guns N’ Roses 2.26
Travis 2.25
The Killers 2.22
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Muse 2.20
Robbie Williams 2.20
Katy Perry 2.18
Panic! At The Disco 2.16
Bon Jovi 2.11
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The Offspring 2.08
Moby 2.06
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Adele 2.05
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The Libertines 1.99
Fall Out Boy 1.96
Red Hot Chili Peppers 1.90
The Eagles 1.86
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Take That 1.76
Stereophonics 1.74
Busted 1.74
KISS 1.73
Morrissey 1.69
Kasabian 1.57
Ed Sheeran 1.29

Today;

BF-band

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Just albums today

  • Damaged
  • My War
  • Family Man
  • Slip It In
  • Loose Nut
  • In My Head
  • What The…

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I don’t think I’ve heard anything other than TV Party.

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The pre-Rollins stuff, Damaged and My War are great. Patchy as fuck after that though.

Just going to pop this here, as I’m now going to be listening to it on the school run this morning.

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Another vote for My War as an album. The Nervous Breakdown EP is perfect as well. Keith Morris :metal: :metal: :metal:

Have a lot of time for the live album Who’s Got the 10½?. A bit ragged but definitely worth checking out.

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Pretty much this, but all of that is so good its still a 5. Think ginns chaotic scratchy solos are absolutely amazing. Spent ages trying to play like him. No chance.

Also had an amazing knack for an intro that would just drag you in from the start (eg rise above, six pack)

First four years is prob the best, but I do love damaged.

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Like primordial sludge played by cavemen. Exactly the kind of shit I adore.

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Not my thing/5

Heard a fair bit as I knew a few people who were into them but couldn’t really distinguish any of it so abstain I guess.

Massively important band, it’s fair to say that the US indie / alt rock scene wouldn’t look like it did in the 90s and 00s if it wasn’t for them. But I can’t honestly say I ever choose to listen to them these days. There’s plenty of better high energy punk bands, and loads of better slow Sabbathy doom stuff out there. They’re not a terrible band by any means, but they’re not as good as their reputation would have you believe. 3/5.

Banging logo, though. 5/5.

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I’m the same. I only ever stick on Nervous Breakdown now, don’t bother listening to any of the rest of it.

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My War, Damaged and First Four Years are pretty much perfect gnarly, angry punk rock. An absolute 5/5 for those alone. Henry Rollins’ account of the tours and weird dynamic in the band around those early years in Get In The Van is pretty great reading too.

It’s a shame Greg Ginn has insisted on shitting all over the legacy of the band with increasingly bad lineups over the last ten years or so. This definitely doesn’t exist…

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And the tour he did with Mike Vallely singing a couple of years back was genuinely one of the worst shows I’ve ever seen. We walked out about ten songs in (so 12 minutes ish). Appalling. Especially compared to the energy of FLAG! which Keith Morris was fronting. Here’s a show I would have loved to have seen instead…

Find myself listening to Rollins solo stuff more often than Black Flag now. It’s slower and more considered but there’s some real quintessential 90s hard rock bangers on Weight.

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I had a copy of damaged a long time ago and that’s all I know, I liked it at the time but around that age (20ish) I listed to a lot of music that would just grate on my ears now in my 30s and this is one of those, 2.5/5 rounded up to 3 because 2 is too harsh

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Instrumental in forging the US alt/indie scene both in terms of the SST label and essentially setting the blueprint for independent bands to tour.
As a band though I can’t get on with them at all.
Also seem like like pretty unpleasant people.

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Do they? I know there was a pretty bitter public falling all between the members which wasn’t pretty, but don’t know about anything else. They seemed pretty solid in 80s from what I’ve read, particularity wrt taking the fight to racists and Nazis

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Is this the hosts from some Pawn shop’/Storage Wars/Antique Roadshow mashup?

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I thought their was general shittyness by Ginn to other SST bands and I remember hearing some stuff about Kira’s time in the band.

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Ginn seems to be a bit of dick for sure if recent conduct is anything to go by. Aware that SST dealings weren’t always great (to put it mildly) either.

Rest of them appear to be pretty sound though - unfair to base an opinion on all of them just on Ginn imo

3/5. They get a point for having possibly the best band logo of all time. They lose points for Greg Ginn’s management of the SST back catalogue and for tarnishing their legacy with this monstrosity of the ‘What the…’ album cover.

Also not keen on Rollins bullying kids to feel like a bad lad

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