5,1,1, and 1 respectively

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That’s a really good point about influence and something I’ve been wanting to articulate for a long time. Taking my favorite band for instance, most people don’t realize or acknowledge the amount of influence The Smashing Pumpkins have had on some of the best music of the past 20 years, the last decade especially (Alcest and Deafheaven being notable examples). They think of them as nothing more than a 90s alt-rock singles band and aren’t aware of the scope of their material.

Taking it a step further, certain bands who have actually been very influential aren’t considered so because either a) the music they play isn’t cool, b) the music they influenced isn’t cool, or c) the music they influenced is shit. As examples, Blink 182 fits all three of these, and Nirvana fits c (edit - Nirvana also has influenced some great music, but I’ve seen them get knocked down by people for influencing a lot of garbage).

Sometimes a band’s not being very good can lead them to being more influential than a better band too. Like if a new artist hears something and thinks “there’s something here but they didn’t do it very well, I could do this better.”

Overall I strongly believe that influence isn’t necessarily an indicator of the quality of a band. There are plenty of shit bands who were influential and there are plenty of amazing bands who haven’t been (or who haven’t been given the opportunity to be). So much of influence has to do with outside factors that have little or nothing to do with the quality of the music.

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This post got me thinking - I’m not sure how realistic it is, or if it would make things harder or easier, but what if everyone had X amount of points to give out to up to 20 artists in any way they see fit? It could be a good way to see which artists tend to generate the most passion too, if an additional sort on highest vote is done. Just an idea, feel free to ignore.

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I think it needs to be as simple as possible to maximise participation tbh, hence the 20-1 points system.

No problem. (And we all know why I was suggesting it anyway.)

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I don’t understand how the participation would be any different for 20-1 points, 30-11 points or 40-21 points.
for all of them, people would just be ranking favourites 1-20 and then someone else adds up the points.
all 3 ways are as simple as each other for the participants- 1-20.

I’m really not sure why 1-20 isn’t sufficient. It’s exactly the same as 11-30 but starting on 11 or 21 just seems a bit weird.

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Gonna have to watch this again now, cheers!

someone ranks artist a 1st and doesn’t rank artist b in the top 20. 19 other people don’t rank artist a in the top 20 and rank artist b 20th.
under your system artist a gets 20 points and artist b gets 19 points.
under my preferred system artist a gets 40 points and artist b gets 399 points.
these two outcomes are not exactly the same.

that’s some jump for artist b in your system there

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in my system artist a gets 47.5 points and b gets pi

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Can I use all my points against aretha?

All joking aside about how it’s quite funny Aretha ended up at the top of this particular list we are all in agreement that she’s amazing even if she doesn’t quite fit the typical indie “DiS” mould right

Like its quite funny that there’s now this determination to knock Aretha off the top but it’s actually probably the smartest decision DiS as a collective has ever made

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Yeah for all the bants and the fact that, yeah, she won’t be near the top of the majority of people’s personal lists, I’d absolutely give her a big ol’ 5 again in a heartbeat if we did a redux

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Don’t really see why it’s become such a thing. Interesting to see how she scores in the big top 100.

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She’ll probably barely rank at all like @Aggpass said bit she’s a more than respectable choice to have the highest average even if there were less voters then

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Basically what I’m saying is, don’t ruin this DiS, it’s a good thing you’ve got going here

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Getting really into this cunt recently

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