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Missy Elliott gets a decent score:

Leaderboard
Artist Rating
Aretha Franklin 4.64
Nina Simone 4.57
A Tribe Called Quest 4.56
Kraftwerk 4.50
Neil Young 4.48
Talk Talk 4.46
Miles Davis 4.42
Alice Coltrane 4.42
Talking Heads 4.39
R.E.M. 4.38
John Coltrane 4.37
Beastie Boys 4.36
Scott Walker 4.36
Otis Redding 4.34
The Velvet Underground 4.33
The Temptations 4.32
David Bowie 4.31
The Beatles 4.31
Leonard Cohen 4.30
Pixies 4.30
Sparklehorse 4.29
Boards Of Canada 4.28
The Cure 4.28
Björk 4.27
Mogwai 4.24
J Dilla 4.23
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds 4.22
Fugazi 4.21
Marvin Gaye 4.21
Tom Waits 4.20
Johnny Cash 4.19
Aphex Twin 4.18
PJ Harvey 4.17
Stevie Wonder 4.17
Four Tet 4.17
Nirvana 4.15
Joy Division 4.15
Radiohead 4.13
The Supremes 4.13
Bill Callahan 4.13
Minutemen 4.12
The Four Tops 4.12
Pavement 4.12
Cocteau Twins 4.11
Prince 4.11
Wu-Tang Clan 4.11
Orbital 4.11
Dinosaur Jr. 4.11
Jason Molina 4.10
De La Soul 4.10
Nick Drake 4.10
The Stooges 4.10
Elliott Smith 4.09
Yo La Tengo 4.09
Les Savy Fav 4.09
Pulp 4.08
Sleater-Kinney 4.08
Sonic Youth 4.08
Public Enemy 4.08
D’Angelo 4.08
Slowdive 4.07
Kate Bush 4.07
OutKast 4.07
Burial 4.07
Autechre 4.06
Godspeed You! Black Emperor 4.03
Black Sabbath 4.03
Portishead 4.03
Super Furry Animals 4.03
Fuck Buttons 4.03
Joanna Newsom 4.02
Mclusky 4.02
Simon & Garfunkel 4.02
Sufjan Stevens 4.01
MF DOOM 4.01
My Bloody Valentine 4.01
The Knife 4.01
Run The Jewels 4.00
Sharon Van Etten 4.00
The Roots 4.00
New Order 3.99
Frightened Rabbit 3.97
Bob Dylan 3.97
Kendrick Lamar 3.97
Wilco 3.97
Robyn 3.96
Low 3.96
Grandaddy 3.96
Built To Spill 3.94
Sigur Rós 3.93
The Beach Boys 3.93
Jimi Hendrix 3.93
Depeche Mode 3.93
LCD Soundsystem 3.92
Broadcast 3.92
Dusty Springfield 3.92
Arab Strap 3.91
Joni Mitchell 3.89
Janelle Monáe 3.89
Massive Attack 3.89
The Twilight Sad 3.88
Frank Ocean 3.86
Spiritualized 3.85
Bruce Springsteen 3.84
Future Of The Left 3.84
Deftones 3.84
The Blue Nile 3.84
Siouxsie & The Banshees 3.83
Lou Reed 3.83
Guided By Voices 3.82
Underworld 3.82
At The Drive-In 3.82
The Kinks 3.82
The Jesus And Mary Chain 3.82
Deerhunter 3.81
Creedence Clearwater Revival 3.81
Fucked Up 3.80
Patti Smith 3.79
Run-D.M.C. 3.78
Young Fathers 3.78
The Clash 3.77
Dolly Parton 3.77
Pet Shop Boys 3.76
Modest Mouse 3.76
Trail Of Dead 3.76
Spoon 3.76
Sparks 3.76
Missy Elliott 3.75
Hüsker Dü 3.74
Blondie 3.73
Bright Eyes 3.71
Rage Against The Machine 3.71
Nine Inch Nails 3.70
The Walkmen 3.70
The Avalanches 3.69
The Wedding Present 3.69
The National 3.68
Paul Simon 3.68
M.I.A. 3.68
The Ramones 3.67
Spacemen 3 3.67
ABBA 3.66
Fiona Apple 3.66
Neutral Milk Hotel 3.66
Soundgarden 3.66
Kanye West 3.65
Solange 3.65
Cat Power 3.65
Arcade Fire 3.64
Mercury Rev 3.63
The Antlers 3.63
Tricky 3.62
Blur 3.61
The Magnetic Fields 3.61
N.W.A. 3.61
Beck 3.59
Elvis Costello 3.59
Hope Of The States 3.58
The Smiths 3.57
Sea Power 3.56
65daysofstatic 3.56
WHY? 3.56
Sunn O))) 3.55
Beyoncé 3.54
Yeah Yeah Yeahs 3.54
Mew 3.54
Flying Lotus 3.54
Charli XCX 3.53
Eels 3.52
Half Man Half Biscuit 3.52
Carly Rae Jepsen 3.51
Roxy Music 3.51
Mastodon 3.51
Daft Punk 3.50
The Hold Steady 3.50
The Chemical Brothers 3.49
Jimmy Eat World 3.49
Explosions In The Sky 3.49
Bob Marley & The Wailers 3.48
Jeff Buckley 3.47
Teenage Fanclub 3.47
Wild Beasts 3.47
The Flaming Lips 3.46
The Cribs 3.46
Hot Chip 3.44
Bon Iver 3.43
Idlewild 3.42
The Fall 3.42
George Michael 3.41
Black Flag 3.41
Madonna 3.40
Manic Street Preachers 3.39
Fleetwood Mac 3.39
Queens Of The Stone Age 3.39
Big Thief 3.39
The Postal Service 3.38
The Shins 3.38
The Notorious B.I.G. 3.37
TV On The Radio 3.37
The Cooper Temple Clause 3.37
The Go! Team 3.36
Toots & The Maytals 3.35
The White Stripes 3.34
George Harrison 3.34
Paul McCartney 3.33
Iron & Wine 3.33
Supergrass 3.32
Dr. Dre 3.32
Leftfield 3.32
Sepultura 3.32
Hole 3.31
Squarepusher 3.31
Iggy Pop 3.31
The Decemberists 3.31
The Smashing Pumpkins 3.30
Suede 3.30
Steely Dan 3.29
Misfits 3.29
Elton John 3.28
The Pogues 3.28
Kylie Minogue 3.27
The Specials 3.26
Vampire Weekend 3.26
Doves 3.26
Richard Hawley 3.25
Death Cab For Cutie 3.24
Laura Marling 3.24
James Brown 3.23
Sugababes 3.22
Thin Lizzy 3.22
Hall & Oates 3.21
The Futureheads 3.21
Rihanna 3.19
The Prodigy 3.18
Led Zeppelin 3.16
Ash 3.16
The Streets 3.16
Pink Floyd 3.15
Pearl Jam 3.15
Motörhead 3.15
Taylor Swift 3.14
Jay-Z 3.14
Arctic Monkeys 3.14
Goldfrapp 3.14
Gorillaz 3.13
Snoop Dogg 3.13
Interpol 3.12
TLC 3.12
Lana Del Rey 3.11
Maxïmo Park 3.11
Los Campesinos! 3.10
Nas 3.10
The Rolling Stones 3.09
St. Vincent 3.09
Animal Collective 3.07
T. Rex 3.07
Iron Maiden 3.06
Placebo 3.06
The Charlatans 3.06
Destiny’s Child 3.05
HAIM 3.05
Primal Scream 3.04
The Divine Comedy 3.04
Everything Everything 3.04
The Strokes 3.03
Elvis Presley 3.02
System Of A Down 3.02
Wolf Alice 3.01
AC/DC 3.00
Frank Zappa 3.00
Duran Duran 3.00
The Bee Gees 2.99
Art Brut 2.99
Weezer 2.97
Grimes 2.96
Garbage 2.96
Amy Winehouse 2.95
Girls Aloud 2.93
Frank Sinatra 2.92
2Pac 2.91
Elbow 2.91
The Stone Roses 2.90
The Doors 2.89
Franz Ferdinand 2.89
The Mars Volta 2.89
Ariana Grande 2.88
Tool 2.88
The Coral 2.88
Paramore 2.88
Lizzo 2.86
Happy Mondays 2.86
Feeder 2.86
Belle And Sebastian 2.85
Britney Spears 2.85
The Horrors 2.84
Metallica 2.81
Green Day 2.81
Madness 2.80
Slipknot 2.80
James 2.78
Foals 2.76
The Jam 2.75
Basement Jaxx 2.75
Alanis Morissette 2.75
Miley Cyrus 2.73
John Lennon 2.73
Oasis 2.71
Whitney Houston 2.69
Nelly Furtado 2.68
The Verve 2.67
Fatboy Slim 2.67
Slayer 2.65
The Sex Pistols 2.63
Faithless 2.63
The Levellers 2.63
Lady Gaga 2.61
Queen 2.60
The Police 2.59
Billy Joel 2.57
Foo Fighters 2.57
U2 2.55
My Chemical Romance 2.54
Justin Timberlake 2.52
The Maccabees 2.52
Editors 2.51
Little Mix 2.49
Biffy Clyro 2.48
Dire Straits 2.43
The Beautiful South 2.43
Meat Loaf 2.43
Bloc Party 2.41
Linkin Park 2.41
Cher 2.40
N.E.R.D 2.40
Michael Jackson 2.39
Eminem 2.38
Mariah Carey 2.32
Jamie T 2.32
Coldplay 2.31
IDLES 2.29
The 1975 2.28
Rancid 2.26
Guns N’ Roses 2.26
Ocean Colour Scene 2.26
Travis 2.25
The Killers 2.22
The Who 2.22
Blink-182 2.21
Phil Collins 2.21
Muse 2.20
Robbie Williams 2.20
Katy Perry 2.18
Jamiroquai 2.17
Panic! At The Disco 2.16
Counting Crows 2.13
Bon Jovi 2.11
No Doubt 2.10
Christina Aguilera 2.09
Paul Weller 2.09
The Offspring 2.08
Usher 2.08
Moby 2.06
Ringo Starr 2.06
Adele 2.05
Aerosmith 2.03
Korn 2.03
Drake 2.02
Kings Of Leon 2.01
Bryan Adams 2.00
The Libertines 1.99
Celine Dion 1.99
Fall Out Boy 1.96
Red Hot Chili Peppers 1.90
The Eagles 1.86
McFly 1.85
Kaiser Chiefs 1.84
Limp Bizkit 1.82
The Spice Girls 1.81
Bruno Mars 1.79
Take That 1.76
Stereophonics 1.74
Busted 1.74
Razorlight 1.74
KISS 1.73
Morrissey 1.69
Kasabian 1.57
Ed Sheeran 1.29

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4 Likes

Just albums today:

  • Halo In A Haystack
  • Petitioning The Empty Sky
  • When Forever Comes Crashing
  • Jane Doe
  • You Fail Me
  • No Heroes
  • Axe To Fall
  • All We Love We Leave Behind
  • The Dusk In Us
  • Bloodmoon: I

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Probably the first artist in one of these threads who I’ve not heard of.

4 Likes

Tried a couple of times but that style of singing is not for me.

makes me cringe and wince

3 Likes

They are good and Jane Doe is an all timer but the godlike status they have is a bit much. Every album since Jane Doe is a bit of a step down in quality

Didnt like Jane Doe when it came out and it birthed swathes of shitty metalcore so was never the biggest fan. Started to appreciate bits of you fail me and all you love… later on and dont mind them so much now. 3/5

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Given them a 4 and 1 point is exclusively for Ben Koller

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First few albums when they were punk kids playing recycled Slayer riffs are incredible. Jane Doe is rightly hailed as a hardcore classic. Agree it’s been diminishing returns since then. Jake Bannon seems like a good dude and I have his art in three rooms of the house. They’re either sloppy and awful or precision devastation live, no middle ground. Quite like that he does his vocal warm ups while prowling along the front of the stage opening and closing his mouth like a snake dislocating it’s jaw. Kurt Ballou is the best modern metal producer in the world.

Fuck it 5/5

10 Likes

I will balance this out by also adding that they are the Kiss of hardcore and have probably released more t shirts than actual songs.

2 Likes

Also bloodmoon is hilariously bad. Not sure what they were smoking there.

3 Likes

Love jane doe. No real desire to hear anything else by them though. 3.5 - will think before i round up or down.

Fun when they go screamo

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One of the best bands of all time 6/5

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I prefer You Fail Me to Jane Doe

Jane Doe, No Heroes and You Fail Me are all excellent. Probably score a 4.5/5 but they’re not my favourite band so will knock it down to 4/5.

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Saw them in 2003/4 or something in Cardiff at the Engine Rooms and I enjoyed it, but ultimately they’re just ‘fine’.

Edit: turns out there’s a video of the gig on YouTube

Might watch it later for the memories.

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Don’t like metalcore at all, the vocals are awful, not one of the albums I’ve tried has made me think oooh I must listen to that again.

Might run a sweepstake on how many drum cam videos will be posted in this thread.

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Just remembered that I went with someone on a date to see them at ULU when they were touring You Fail Me. The gig sucked and we listened to Hot Water Music all the way back to Winchester in utter silence. I had been down the front for quite a lot of it and must have absolutely stunk. Never heard from her again. Learned a valuable lesson that night: if you’re going on a date, try to find something you’ll both enjoy and talk to each other.

Thanks brain, for dredging up that excruciating memory.

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The moment truly heavy music clicked for me. Two of my housemates in uni were big metalcore fans and I just didn’t get it. They persuaded me to see Converge with them, speaking as if it was a visit from the Messiah for weeks beforehand.

Fair play. Just live proper techno makes a lot more sense after you hear it on stimulants for the first time, this is music that only really clicked after seeing it live and like a lock clicking open suddenly there was this whole spectrum of music available to me that had been previously closed off.

I tend towards slower and sludgier when I want my extremity fix these days, but Converge still get a fairly frequent airing. Think their drummer was involved with The Armed’s last record too, which is good enough to win them an extra point. Or it would be if they weren’t already an easy 5.

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saw them live not knowing them and it made me a huge fan

4/5 due to the last few albums being a bore