🎵 How Good Are They Really 🎵 David Berman

Thought we’d do a cover-all thread for this one, so voting is for his complete output covering Silver Jews and Purple Mountains…

Air go 149th:

Leaderboard
Artist Rating
Aretha Franklin 4.64
Nina Simone 4.57
A Tribe Called Quest 4.56
Kraftwerk 4.50
Neil Young 4.48
Talk Talk 4.46
Miles Davis 4.42
Alice Coltrane 4.42
Talking Heads 4.39
R.E.M. 4.38
John Coltrane 4.37
Beastie Boys 4.36
Scott Walker 4.36
Otis Redding 4.34
The Velvet Underground 4.33
The Temptations 4.32
David Bowie 4.31
The Beatles 4.31
Leonard Cohen 4.30
Pixies 4.30
Sparklehorse 4.29
Boards Of Canada 4.28
The Cure 4.28
Björk 4.27
Mogwai 4.24
J Dilla 4.23
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds 4.22
Fugazi 4.21
Marvin Gaye 4.21
Tom Waits 4.20
Johnny Cash 4.19
Aphex Twin 4.18
PJ Harvey 4.17
Stevie Wonder 4.17
Four Tet 4.17
Nirvana 4.15
Joy Division 4.15
Radiohead 4.13
The Supremes 4.13
Bill Callahan 4.13
Minutemen 4.12
The Four Tops 4.12
Pavement 4.12
Cocteau Twins 4.11
Prince 4.11
Wu-Tang Clan 4.11
Orbital 4.11
Dinosaur Jr. 4.11
Jason Molina 4.10
De La Soul 4.10
Nick Drake 4.10
The Stooges 4.10
Elliott Smith 4.09
Yo La Tengo 4.09
Les Savy Fav 4.09
Pulp 4.08
Sleater-Kinney 4.08
Sonic Youth 4.08
Public Enemy 4.08
D’Angelo 4.08
Slowdive 4.07
Kate Bush 4.07
OutKast 4.07
Burial 4.07
Autechre 4.06
Godspeed You! Black Emperor 4.03
Black Sabbath 4.03
Portishead 4.03
Super Furry Animals 4.03
Fuck Buttons 4.03
Joanna Newsom 4.02
Mclusky 4.02
Simon & Garfunkel 4.02
Sufjan Stevens 4.01
MF DOOM 4.01
My Bloody Valentine 4.01
The Knife 4.01
Run The Jewels 4.00
Sharon Van Etten 4.00
The Roots 4.00
New Order 3.99
Frightened Rabbit 3.97
Bob Dylan 3.97
Kendrick Lamar 3.97
Wilco 3.97
Robyn 3.96
Low 3.96
Grandaddy 3.96
Built To Spill 3.94
Sigur Rós 3.93
The Beach Boys 3.93
Jimi Hendrix 3.93
Depeche Mode 3.93
LCD Soundsystem 3.92
Broadcast 3.92
Dusty Springfield 3.92
Arab Strap 3.91
Joni Mitchell 3.89
Janelle Monáe 3.89
Massive Attack 3.89
The Twilight Sad 3.88
Frank Ocean 3.86
Spiritualized 3.85
Bruce Springsteen 3.84
Future Of The Left 3.84
Deftones 3.84
The Blue Nile 3.84
Siouxsie & The Banshees 3.83
Lou Reed 3.83
Guided By Voices 3.82
Underworld 3.82
At The Drive-In 3.82
The Kinks 3.82
The Jesus And Mary Chain 3.82
Deerhunter 3.81
Creedence Clearwater Revival 3.81
Fucked Up 3.80
Patti Smith 3.79
Run-D.M.C. 3.78
Young Fathers 3.78
The Clash 3.77
Dolly Parton 3.77
Pet Shop Boys 3.76
Modest Mouse 3.76
Trail Of Dead 3.76
Spoon 3.76
Sparks 3.76
Missy Elliott 3.75
Hüsker Dü 3.74
Blondie 3.73
Bright Eyes 3.71
Rage Against The Machine 3.71
Nine Inch Nails 3.70
The Walkmen 3.70
The Avalanches 3.69
The Wedding Present 3.69
The National 3.68
Paul Simon 3.68
M.I.A. 3.68
The Ramones 3.67
Spacemen 3 3.67
ABBA 3.66
Fiona Apple 3.66
Neutral Milk Hotel 3.66
Soundgarden 3.66
Kanye West 3.65
Solange 3.65
Cat Power 3.65
Air 3.65
Arcade Fire 3.64
Mercury Rev 3.63
The Antlers 3.63
Tricky 3.62
Blur 3.61
The Magnetic Fields 3.61
N.W.A. 3.61
Beck 3.59
Elvis Costello 3.59
Hope Of The States 3.58
The Smiths 3.57
Sea Power 3.56
65daysofstatic 3.56
WHY? 3.56
Sunn O))) 3.55
Beyoncé 3.54
Yeah Yeah Yeahs 3.54
Mew 3.54
Flying Lotus 3.54
Charli XCX 3.53
Eels 3.52
Half Man Half Biscuit 3.52
Carly Rae Jepsen 3.51
Roxy Music 3.51
Mastodon 3.51
Daft Punk 3.50
The Hold Steady 3.50
The Chemical Brothers 3.49
Jimmy Eat World 3.49
Explosions In The Sky 3.49
Bob Marley & The Wailers 3.48
Jeff Buckley 3.47
Teenage Fanclub 3.47
Wild Beasts 3.47
The Flaming Lips 3.46
The Cribs 3.46
Hot Chip 3.44
Bon Iver 3.43
Idlewild 3.42
The Fall 3.42
George Michael 3.41
Black Flag 3.41
Madonna 3.40
Manic Street Preachers 3.39
Fleetwood Mac 3.39
Queens Of The Stone Age 3.39
Big Thief 3.39
The Postal Service 3.38
The Shins 3.38
The Notorious B.I.G. 3.37
TV On The Radio 3.37
The Cooper Temple Clause 3.37
The Go! Team 3.36
Converge 3.36
Toots & The Maytals 3.35
The White Stripes 3.34
George Harrison 3.34
Paul McCartney 3.33
Iron & Wine 3.33
Supergrass 3.32
Dr. Dre 3.32
Leftfield 3.32
Sepultura 3.32
Hole 3.31
Squarepusher 3.31
Iggy Pop 3.31
The Decemberists 3.31
The Smashing Pumpkins 3.30
Suede 3.30
Steely Dan 3.29
Misfits 3.29
Elton John 3.28
The Pogues 3.28
Kylie Minogue 3.27
The Specials 3.26
Vampire Weekend 3.26
Doves 3.26
Richard Hawley 3.25
Death Cab For Cutie 3.24
Laura Marling 3.24
James Brown 3.23
Sugababes 3.22
Thin Lizzy 3.22
Hall & Oates 3.21
The Futureheads 3.21
Rihanna 3.19
The Prodigy 3.18
Led Zeppelin 3.16
Ash 3.16
The Streets 3.16
Pink Floyd 3.15
Pearl Jam 3.15
Motörhead 3.15
Taylor Swift 3.14
Jay-Z 3.14
Arctic Monkeys 3.14
Goldfrapp 3.14
Gorillaz 3.13
Snoop Dogg 3.13
Interpol 3.12
TLC 3.12
Lana Del Rey 3.11
Maxïmo Park 3.11
Los Campesinos! 3.10
Nas 3.10
The Rolling Stones 3.09
St. Vincent 3.09
Animal Collective 3.07
T. Rex 3.07
Iron Maiden 3.06
Placebo 3.06
The Charlatans 3.06
Destiny’s Child 3.05
HAIM 3.05
Primal Scream 3.04
The Divine Comedy 3.04
Everything Everything 3.04
The Strokes 3.03
Elvis Presley 3.02
System Of A Down 3.02
Wolf Alice 3.01
AC/DC 3.00
Frank Zappa 3.00
Duran Duran 3.00
The Bee Gees 2.99
Art Brut 2.99
Weezer 2.97
Grimes 2.96
Garbage 2.96
Amy Winehouse 2.95
Girls Aloud 2.93
Frank Sinatra 2.92
2Pac 2.91
Elbow 2.91
The Stone Roses 2.90
The Doors 2.89
Franz Ferdinand 2.89
The Mars Volta 2.89
Ariana Grande 2.88
Tool 2.88
The Coral 2.88
Paramore 2.88
Lizzo 2.86
Happy Mondays 2.86
Feeder 2.86
Belle And Sebastian 2.85
Britney Spears 2.85
The Horrors 2.84
Metallica 2.81
Green Day 2.81
Madness 2.80
Slipknot 2.80
James 2.78
Foals 2.76
The Jam 2.75
Basement Jaxx 2.75
Alanis Morissette 2.75
Miley Cyrus 2.73
John Lennon 2.73
Oasis 2.71
Whitney Houston 2.69
Nelly Furtado 2.68
The Verve 2.67
Fatboy Slim 2.67
Slayer 2.65
The Sex Pistols 2.63
Faithless 2.63
The Levellers 2.63
Lady Gaga 2.61
Queen 2.60
The Police 2.59
Billy Joel 2.57
Foo Fighters 2.57
U2 2.55
My Chemical Romance 2.54
Justin Timberlake 2.52
The Maccabees 2.52
Editors 2.51
Little Mix 2.49
Biffy Clyro 2.48
Dire Straits 2.43
The Beautiful South 2.43
Meat Loaf 2.43
Bloc Party 2.41
Linkin Park 2.41
Cher 2.40
N.E.R.D 2.40
Michael Jackson 2.39
Eminem 2.38
Mariah Carey 2.32
Jamie T 2.32
Coldplay 2.31
IDLES 2.29
The 1975 2.28
Rancid 2.26
Guns N’ Roses 2.26
Ocean Colour Scene 2.26
Travis 2.25
The Killers 2.22
The Who 2.22
Blink-182 2.21
Phil Collins 2.21
Muse 2.20
Robbie Williams 2.20
Katy Perry 2.18
Jamiroquai 2.17
Panic! At The Disco 2.16
Counting Crows 2.13
Bon Jovi 2.11
No Doubt 2.10
Christina Aguilera 2.09
Paul Weller 2.09
The Offspring 2.08
Usher 2.08
Moby 2.06
Ringo Starr 2.06
Adele 2.05
Aerosmith 2.03
Korn 2.03
Drake 2.02
Kings Of Leon 2.01
Bryan Adams 2.00
The Libertines 1.99
Celine Dion 1.99
Fall Out Boy 1.96
Red Hot Chili Peppers 1.90
The Eagles 1.86
McFly 1.85
Kaiser Chiefs 1.84
Limp Bizkit 1.82
The Spice Girls 1.81
Bruno Mars 1.79
Take That 1.76
Stereophonics 1.74
Busted 1.74
Razorlight 1.74
KISS 1.73
Morrissey 1.69
Kasabian 1.57
Ed Sheeran 1.29

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0 voters

Just all the albums today:

  • Starlite Walker
  • The Natural Bridge
  • American Water
  • Bright Flight
  • Tanglewood Numbers
  • Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea
  • Purple Mountains

0 voters

Only ever heard Purple Mountains and I liked it.

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Some of the best openings to songs ever. The purple mountains one made me laugh at the time, but in retrospect, damn.

‘ Well, I don’t like talkin’ to myself
But someone’s gotta say it, hell
I mean, things have not been going well
This time I think I finally fucked myself’

8 Likes

All my favourite singers couldn’t sing.

6 Likes

I refuse to make a choice on album. A nice 5. Also features on my favourite Avalanches track

4 Likes

One of the all time great sad bangers.

5

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5 for how much fun they’re having in this video

This has reminded me I still haven’t checked out a couple of the Silver Jews albums, will have a listen today.

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5

One of a handful of artists that felt very special and personal for a long time. Like a secret even though I did know a few people who liked him.

Not really one for remembering or even hearing lyrics and probably 90%+ music I listen to is instrumental or largely instrumental but SJ stand out as an artist with vocals I love.

Difficult to talk about for obvious reasons actually find the resonance I feel at the age I am not a great place to be tbh and I am struggling to know which album to vote for - am actually leaning Purple Mountains.

Anyway this song and (unofficial) video are a pure joy.

Where’s the paper bag that holds the liquor? Just in case I feel the need to puke.

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@Funkhouser can I suggest you add what David Berman’s various acts were in the OP just in case someone clicks in and has no idea what’s going on in here but might recognise the band names?

2 Likes

Done and done.

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In 1984 I was hospitalised for approaching perfection…

5/5.

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Nope, still no idea

4 Likes

A staggeringly good lyricist, and the music is basically everything I want songs to be; heartfelt, funny, clever, enlightening, emotional, generous, acerbic.
Hate to be that guy, but anyone voting less than a four is either a troll, a nincompoop, or working for some inscrutable Putin-funded disinformation campaign

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Alongside Mark Linkous as a genius lyricist. Find it hard to be objective about his work, it’s all touched me so deeply.

This song off Purple Mountains is perfect.

Also, his poetry is great too (though the difference between it and lyrics is negotiable). This gets quoted a lot, but Snow is incredible (sorry for big pasting).

Walking through a field with my little brother Seth

I pointed to a place where kids had made angels in the snow.
For some reason, I told him that a troop of angels
had been shot and dissolved when they hit the ground.

He asked who had shot them and I said a farmer.

Then we were on the roof of the lake.
The ice looked like a photograph of water.

Why he asked. Why did he shoot them.

I didn’t know where I was going with this.

They were on his property, I said.

When it’s snowing, the outdoors seem like a room.

Today I traded hellos with my neighbor.
Our voices hung close in the new acoustics.
A room with the walls blasted to shreds and falling.

We returned to our shoveling, working side by side in silence.

But why were they on his property, he asked.

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Have a go on American Water.

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Which song?

I only really know this record @TKC but it will give you an idea anyway

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All of them. Start at the start.

Course I’ve been humbled by the void
Much of my faith has been destroyed
I’ve been forced to watch my foes enjoy
Ceaseless feasts of schadenfreude
And as the pace of life keeps quickening
Beneath the bitching and the bickering
When I try to drown my thoughts in gin
I find my worst ideas know how to swim

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