I hear you ccb

team Elliott <3

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I think it’s interesting that people are mentioning Nick Drake as I am kind of surprised Elliott hasn’t become in the 2010s/20s what Nick Drake was in the 90s, a sort of rights of passage artist you discover. Maybe ND got that cd boom promotion and is just that little bit more accessible to a vaguely mainstream audience.

I just find I have to really want to listen to it. It’s all undeniably good, I just find it a bit… sombre? Can’t quite find the right words. I’m honestly not trying to piss on anyone’s chips here, I know people love him - it’s like when people describe Radiohead as miserable, I just don’t get that from them. People just hear things differently I guess.

dunno if anybody else has said, but there isn’t normally much if any there? he double-tracked his vocals all the time, but they normally had a fairly dry studio sound.

one of my favourite ever just because

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That’s what I’m referring to I think, my ears can’t tell the difference between that and just reverb or delay or whatever. It’s a sonic aesthetic I really struggle with.

what about ‘Between the Bars’? don’t you like the way the lyrics slip back and forth so gracefully between any specific interpretation?

that’s a shame!

he was always very whispery too

Yeah, I touched on it above but, as a general rule, any vocal that could be described as “etherial” or “delicate” or whatever is likely to leave me cold

oh, and he was a truly brilliant guitarist and all.

he made the most fiddly parts sound so natural. the pains of being a young ES fan trying to learn by having a crack at his tunes…

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Was lucky enough to see him live and was blown away by how much he rocked! He gave the impression on record of being almost exclusively introspective and shy but he absolutely smashed it when I saw him in Manchester.

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Fair enough!

This is good timing, as I just listened to the self-titled album in bed last night.

A major artist as a teen, the self-titled album in particular is one of my favourites of all time. Absolute genius of melody, those harmonies are amazing, he’s a genius. Don’t have a great big thing to write out, but he is just incredible.

Someone already posted it, but St Ides Heaven is my fave along with this one:

The fivest of fives.

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I think the full band versions he did of his acoustic songs are stunning and an absolute testament to just what brilliantly written and constructed songs they are.

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The 5iest of 5s
First heard his cover of Big Star’s 13 which really blew me away as a late teen.


Reviewers at the time compared him to Simon & Garfunkel or one of the Buckleys or other acoustic songwriters but that does him a disservice. I think he’s the most direct continuation of bands like Big Star, the Beatles and the Beach Boys - in terms of composition. It carries on those classic traditions but it expands on them. That he recorded most of the instruments by himself is an even bigger feat. That doubling up aesthetic and the shifting chord changes are an instant nostalgia trip and it’s so good at creating worlds.

Learning about how he was a survivor of abuse as a youngster, and that giving up on his band and changing his vocal style was a direct decision due to reading feminist theory and considering the rock scene dumb and macho - that was formative for me too.

The lyrics are incredible obviously. It’s so dumb to write him off as one dimensional or soft because so many of the refrains are barbed as they come and hit like a freight train. Yes they’re often the absolute depths of depression or addiction and that’s a bit heavy for some but that’s not on him, that’s on the listener. The last album being an incredibly beautiful thing despite being borne out of complete isolation and paranoia that his own record label was sending secret investigators to steal the outtakes Some incredibly sad footage exists where he’s so fucked he can’t strum, and an alarmingly dramatic/tragic end - but he created a body of work that makes me feel less alone at any time. He was just the best, sometimes it’s like plugging into some universal truth. Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive.

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Here’s Elliott at his most Beatles-y. An absolute joy, a one of single so tends to get a bit forgotten

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Think it was @colon_closed_bracket who posted this excellent piano version of I didn’t Understand too. The composition on this is absolutely timeless

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Ok fair enough. I think my feeling on that is aimed solely at Figure 8 which has a lot of songs on it and many which are more squarely about personal misery than on other albums? Having Everything Means Nothing To Me, Everything Reminds Me Of Her, Stupidity Tries, I Better Be Quiet Now etc. all on one album is heavy going.

Also it’s pretty obvious undisputed HGATR champs Radiohead borrow heavily from ES, not least in Yorke’s vocal approach

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God listening to that 13 cover again just absolutely reminds me why he’s one of my favourite artists of all time.

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Figure 8’s the slickest with the most lavish instrumentation, it takes a bit to get used to for sure. These two are little diamonds though


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