šŸŽµ How Good Are They Really šŸŽµ Fugazi

Oh god, you reminded me of this guy in his 40s I worked with on my uni work placement who was the ā€œoffice jokerā€ who’d sing lines from Marillion at me when I was wearing it. I never knew what the fuck he was doing as I’ve never listened to them and always remember those moments being nothing but awkward. No idea how you’re supposed to react in work situations like that.

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oh, I’m just about to leave for work! Biggest 5 going, will write more, possibly much more, later.

5 based on the albums I know. Little bit of catching up to do - haven’t heard The Argument. Will correct that today. Repeater and Red Medicine are the ones I’ve spent most time with.

Love the story about big wigs from Atlantic(?) Records shutting down back stage at a Fugazi gig to flex their muscles and offer them a huge record deal and Fugazi’s response was essentially ā€˜Fuck off, what do I need you for? I’ve got my own label already’

I’ve gone with a 4 just now because I really haven’t listened to them as much as I should, I love The Argument and End Hits. Might listen to some of the rest of it today and bump up the mark accordingly.

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This is great innit?

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5/5 you ice cream eating motherfucker…

but i’m clueless on my favourite album. Going to think about it hard and get them on all day before choosing i reckon. So so good. Lots of other folks will articulate it better than me today i’m sure but important in so many ways. Everything they have done musically, and with dischord and DIY generally is next level. As with many it opened my eyes to what was possible and how sticking to your guns is an option.

In all honesty i was a fan of them without particularly liking the music for ages :rofl: I loved their ethics, and they clearly influenced so many bands i enjoyed. I loved minor threat and Rites of Spring but something just didn’t really click with fugazi for some reason It was probably seeing some of the live stuff on the instrument soundtrack (used to be the music vhs everyone had at one stage) when it all started to make sense and ludicrously that was the first LP i bought as it was the only one in the record shop. I then gradually went backwards and fell in love but when The Argument came out i just didn’t get it and wasn’t that arsed. Cue one of my biggest gig going mistakes in not pushing myself into buying a ticket to see them in brum. Was too broke but i could have found the money somehow :frowning: . In time i grew to love that LP, and all of them and now they easily count as one of my favourite bands.

The rhythm section is a thing of beauty in fugazi, the Blueprint (:wink: ) for how a punk band can elevate themselves to something else entirely. Ian and Guy then work as foiling leads exceptionally well. Not sure another band has ever been so good at building the tension in songs before exploding.

Anyway, so many amazing songs so here’s some for the thread that may not get chosen elsewhere…

I love the clip of them in the correctional facility on Instrument also. I find the little things which you see and absorb when you’re younger which end up having a lasting impression interesting, and Fugazi have a lot of that for me. (Not that i’ve ever played a prison gig :-D)

I love Joe Lally and his bass playing so much also :heart_eyes: his solo album There to Here is worth a listen, and he’s in The Messthetics with Brendan who are good fun. Really enjoyed it when they toured the other year.

Coriky are great also, and feel like possibly the closest we’ll ever get to a new fugazi lp. Well worth a listen.

These could end up topping the table if too many people don’t find Ians voice irritating :smiley: Be interesting to see how the thread goes. Total love in? Not sure there’s much dirt :wink:

Along with Dave Grohl and Henry Rollins though, i’d be happy never to see Ian pop up as a talking head ever again.

Back to the score - 5 of course! There should really be a 5.1 option just to ensure they go top.

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I’ll put a post later about what they mean to me, and my history with them, but in the meantime this is a cut and paste of a introduction to Fugazi I wrote for somewhere else a few years ago:

The lowdown on Fugazi

Fugazi are a Washington DC band, formed in 1987 and officially still extant, although they have been ā€˜on hiatus’ since 2002. The four members are Ian MacKaye (vocals and guitar), previously of hardcore legends Minor Threat, Joe Lally (bass), Brendan Canty (drums) and Guy Picciotto (initially only backing vocals in a hype man role, the Flavor Flav to MacKaye’s Chuck D, but subsequently second guitarist and co-lead vocalist). Their music is rooted in punk, but moves outwards to encompass much more. There’s a strong dub reggae influence from their earliest recordings, not least in their use of space – they took a traditionally dense and claustrophobic sound and found the space that was hiding in it all along. The guitar style is unusual. There’s no real differentiation between lead and rhythm, rather both guitarists occupy different parts of the sound spectrum, with Picciotto’s needling treble interlocking with MacKaye’s chunkier riffs. The real musical stars of Fugazi are the rhythm section. Lally and Canty are just superb, with sensational interplay, drive and groove. They deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as Entwistle and Moon or Jones and Bonham. As their career progressed, the records became more experimental, embracing elements of funk, jazz and post-rock.

If they had only left us their records, Fugazi would still be a band for the ages, but their business practices were also highly influential on underground rock in the 90s and beyond. They were fiercely DIY, recording and releasing all their records themselves on MacKaye’s own Dischord label. They chose not to sell any merchandise – if you’ve ever seen a Fugazi T-shirt, it’s a bootleg – and kept concert ticket prices as low as possible. None of this seems to have hurt them. Repeater has sold more than two million copies across the world, and their final tour saw them selling out three nights at the Forum in London. They were a very political band (I’m going to find the YouTube clip of them performing outside the White House for the comments), but not particularly preachy or sanctimonious. Their lyrics are often elliptical and allusive, and when the politics are clear, it’s often on a personal level, as in ā€˜Suggestion’ from the first EP, where MacKaye sings from the point of view of a woman suffering everyday sexual harassment.

It’s the music that’s key, though. Crass were similarly radical in approach, for instance, but I’m not going to seriously suggest we should be listening to them in 2017. Fugazi were thrilling and visceral. They made you think and they made you dance, and they made some of the very best rock music ever recorded.

The best place to start:

I’d have to pick Repeater, from 1990. It’s their first full length LP, and all the elements I’ve raved about above are present and correct. The opening four tracks are presented as one piece of music with no gaps, and it’s as good a twelve minutes of rock n roll as you will ever hear.

The absolutely essential masterpiece(s):

The compilation ’13 Songs’ combines the self titled and Margin Walker EPs, from 1988 and 1989 respectively. It’s notable for including ā€˜Waiting Room’, which has an absolute monster of a bassline. If you’ve only heard one Fugazi song, I’d bet good money it was this one. 1993’s ā€˜In On The Killtaker’ hits the sweet spot between early aggression and later experimentation. It’s probably my own favourite of all their records. Their last (to date!) album, ā€˜The Argument’ from 2002 was a fine and noble way to go out, a restaking of claims after a muted reaction to it’s predecessor ā€˜End Hits’.

Recommended if you like….

I suppose their antecedents would be people like Gang Of Four, but their real legacy is in their influence. If you’ve ever enjoyed any vaguely alternative American rock music from the last twenty years, chances are those musicians listened to Fugazi

Advanced listening/watching/reading etc.

ā€˜Steady Diet Of Nothing’ from 1991 was the follow up to ā€˜Repeater’. It’s in the same vein as that record, a bit denser and darker perhaps, but still excellent. ā€˜Red Medicine’ (1996) and ā€˜End Hits’ (1997) are the later, more experimental records, where Fugazi incorporated psychedelia, musique concrete and other forms into their work.

There’s also a band sanctioned documentary, directed by Jem Cohen, called ā€˜Instrument’ that is well worth a watch, if only for the incredible footage of Guy and the basketball hoop.

In addition, Dischord now maintain a site (the Fugazi Live Series) where you can download recordings of almost every show the band ever played, for a suggested cost of $5 per show. I have the first and last shows I attended (Nottingham 1992 and Exeter 2002) and they are excellent.

Where others fear to tread….for completists only:

The soundtrack to Instrument was released as a standalone album. It’s scraps from the cutting room floor, jams and noodles. It sounds more like Slint than it does Fugazi. It’s a curiosity, but it should be at the back of the queue when you’re lining up albums to listen to.

There are a couple of 7″ releases that are worth finding. The ā€˜3 Songs’ EP was out a few months before ā€˜Repeater’, and is bundled onto the CD release of that record. ā€˜Furniture’ is an old song that was dug up and released on vinyl alongside the final album in 2002. In 2014, Dischord put out an archival release of the first Fugazi demo cassette to mark the completion of the Live Series.

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I still listen to crass in 2021. Am I doing it wrong?

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I love Crass, love the imagery, the stance, the pranks, the mythology. I just don’t listen to them very much anymore.

Yeah, KYEO is one of my favourite Fugazi tunes!

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The little furniture EP is very nice too.

Also First Demo was lovely present they gave us all. I made my mate go off as he was drunk (and leaning into it) when I claimed First Demo as one of my albums of the year that year. He wanted to disallow as a re-release but we all overruled him.

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Easy 5 innit!

Changed my life. So glad I got to see them on that last tour (Exeter).

If anyone has a very high tolerance for Ian’s punk archiving, I recommend this!

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I really like 13 Songs. Have to be honest and say I’ve not really clicked with anything else they’ve done at all, and I’ve tried a lot of it. Difficult one to score.

Went back to Killtaker as it was the album I had before and turned it off after about 30 seconds. The vocals are terrible.

Did a bit of jumping around on Spotify and I’ve decided I’m happy never listening to them again.
1 seems mean for a band with a song as much fun as Waiting Room but here we are.

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this was me until I joined this forum, was told many times by musical friends that I would love them. It didn’t help that Spotify always shoved ā€œWaiting Roomā€ in my face every time it went into auto-shuffle. I couldn’t get past Guy’s vocals (they are pretty rough, don’t lie) and some of the tracks almost reminded me of hip-hop which I wasn’t really into

When I joined DiS I was kindly recommended IOTKT and Red Medicine which I liked but, it wasn’t until I heard The Argument that it all fell into place. Give this one a go if you haven’t, just listened this morning during my workout and it’s bliss.

side bar: don’t flame me but this could be a RHCP track

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Yeah I think a lot of people don’t like the straining-to-take-a-shit vocal style but I love it. I reckon it’s the thing that holds them back from wide adulation most.

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One of the reasons I consider Red Medicine my favourite is that I think Guy as a vocalist really turns a corner by that point. Also dig Joe’s vocal input on that too.

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