While Shonen Knife are great I dont think they particularly apply to Ruff’s point

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FINALLY

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Ah sorry, thought it was referring to bands that toured together. What’s the Bikini Kill connection?

Kathleen Hanna was personal friends (they hate each other now and have done pretty much since Kurt died)/they’re all from the same Riot Grrrl scene in Olympia

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Bought the album Celebrity Skin because I loved the tracks Awful, Hit So Hard and Malibu and really those were the only songs I liked and played. For some reason I didn’t investigate further into their back catalogue. Maybe because anything else I’d heard wasn’t my cup of chai.
Probs abstain from this one. Those 3 tracks are ace though :+1:

Hard rock wasn’t my thing as a young lad but I remember my Nirvana-loving friends hating Courtney Love. For some reason that stuck with me into my 30s so I only got round to giving Live Through This and Celebrity Skin a listen about 5 years ago. Loved them both! Saying that, I’ve still never felt a need to so much as glance in the direction of their other albums. 4/5

Nice to see Stereophonics where they belong. I’m now thinking that my 2 rating was extremely generous.

I’ve not listened to enough of Hole to really have an opinion. Other than Celebrity Skin which is pretty good, although did wear it out a little on Rock Band.

I’ve always thought Metallica sort of got Hero of the Day from Miss World.

had a ticket for that, couldn’t go because I think it was before an exam or something, person I sold the ticket to still owes me the money for it. saw them at glastonbury circa then though

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live through this is one of the few records that stands up from that era/scene. listened to it recently and it is even better than I remembered, lots of subtle textures, love the mixture of pretty chimey sounds and moments of raw intensity, Courtney has one of those voices that has its own overdrive build in, really powerful when it kicks in

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takes me back to 6th form

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  1. Live Through This is my favourite record ever, by anybody. That’s the one going to the island with me if I can only take one. I get that she’s not perfect but I’ve got a lot of time for Courtney.

This is why she’s earned every single penny she’s ever made out of Nirvana, having to put up with this shit every day.

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remember putting my hole sew on patch pride of place on the various army surplus bags I went through as a youngster

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Boys on the Radio is the prettiest song ever

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I have never knowingly heard a tune by Hole and had no idea they were held in high regard (think I’d read something derisory about them in NME once in the 90s and that’s literally the only time until now I’ve ever seen or heard any opinion about them). Putting on Live Through This now, quite optimistic given the love in the thread.

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Still slightly blows my mind that Courtney Love and Steve Coogan were a thing.

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Conversely to this I recall the NME giving their debut album 10/10 which at that point I only think I’d seen them give one 10/10 before in my NME buying years (Godflesh - Streetcleaner). When that NME review cited the album as important a debut as the first Ramones album - I just went and bought it.

From there on in the whole scene for me began to break and when “Grunge” was in - I moved away slowly. For these kind of reasons I never listened to another Hole album in full, but with that real fire in the belly debut the NME weren’t far off with their rating and it’s a fantastic record.

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Weirdly despite living hole I’ve never checked out that album

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Gonna post this as POTI seems to be getting a slightly raw deal so far - it’s a (decidedly very loose) cover of Both Sides, Now.

If anybody has Amazon Prime, the documentary about Patty Schemel (Hit So Hard) is on there for a few more days and is worth a watch.

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I’ve not heard it for a long time and recall how it is solid throughout but builds to that title track which is very near the end of the album. It just feels like a real pure rage of explosion, letting something out that needs to be exorcised. It’s messy and noisy - and it’s all the better for it. Just listening to it now and got goosebumps, no better gauge than that.

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