Are you high?!

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Basically some Germans arseing around on keyboards

And producing some of the greatest music ever in the process.

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Kraftwerk.

An outfit I first noticed in the boxes upon boxes of records outside Reddington’s Rare Records then of Moor Street Birmingham, just over the road from the railway station. This would have been 1980 or 1981 and i would have been about 10 years of age maybe a year older.

Reddington’s Rare Records was a bad shop to be honest, a kind of CEX of music but in ways worse, they would buy records from people at very low prices and usually sell them for much higher prices, not sure why I’m pointing this out, I’m just feeling my way back.

Anyway, before the Internet or any exposure in the press for me to Kraftwerk, etc, this shop, amongst many other record shops was in ways the way I found out about music. I usually could not afford to buy so just looked, read the sleeves, picked up on the clues. In such ways I noticed Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, The Beatles and… Kraftwerk.

The visual signals with Kraftwerk were strong, remember, at this point I had never heard them. The difference with Kraftwerk to such bands as the other examples I have just namecheckled was you would see: Autobahn, Radio Activity, Trans-Europe Express, The Man Machine and at later dates Computer World in the cheaper boxes relegated to being outside Reddington’s Rare Records. They would be beaten up albums, but they were affordable, yet I still didn’t buy them but the very real intrigue was there.

In 1981 I was listening to the Top 40 on Radio 1 on a Sunday evening. Computer Love, the single was something like Number 38 and on a whim I taped it and just loved it immediately. It’s no secret that someone somewhere flipped the record and started playing the B-Side, The Model and this simple flip of a 7 inch record saw the single rise quickly to Number 1 in the Charts. In ways I still prefer that discovery moment of Computer Love to The Model - but there’s no denying The Model is a classic single. Somehow not long after I heard Pocket Calculator, but I cannot recall how.

Kraftwerk or rather their label then re-released Showroom Dummies which charted respectably in the singles Chart and this is still my favourite Kraftwerk track. For what is after all a 70’s track to sound that cold, simple, threatening, removed from a norm of Rock Music yet these edges to it appeal in exactly the same ways as an alternative Rock record, more so maybe. Unique.

So then the real time release (for me) of Tour De France in 1983 which I think was their next single only went and raised that bar higher. Mere months after I’d heard Blue Monday and this oozing, throbbing, breathing masterpiece of Electronica. For a record to give the feeling you are drained on a bicycle, to feel the sun on you through the vibe of the sprinkling electronica in its moments that simply pass you by in cruise mode, it fitted 1983 and the real shifts in music that were happening then just perfectly. Yet this was just Kraftwerk being Kraftwerk.

Of the four albums I’ve name checked above you can comfortably add Computer World and Electric Cafe as being essential. That blend of ice cold, like they actually are robots and real connection to emotion through instrumental methods which at time of release were unconventional and still to this very day sound futuristic.

It can only be a 5.

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No reason to give anything other than a 5 here.
Genuinely one of the most influential bands ever, with such a consistently excellent output.

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such a 5 it’s not even funny how much of a 5 this 5 is because they’re the 5iest 5 there ever was.
they’re absolutely fucking brilliant. 5 like a fox

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it’s between Trans Europe Express and Computer World for me, but TEE edges it i think

i’m going 4 rather than 5 cos they’re not a band i regularly stick on all the time but obviously their influence is incredible

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Hmmm. They are obviously incredibly influential and I do appreciate how astonishingly pioneering they were, and how culturally significant they are, especially considering how much of a positive impact they had for German (and European) post-war identity. Despite all this, my experience of actively listening to them is that I find them pretty, but not engaging.

When I put on one of their songs, I find myself thinking: “is this it? Is this how it’s going to sound for the next five minutes?” There’s not enough to hold my attention. There doesn’t appear to be any of the subtle sonics or developments which keep other electronic music interesting. It’s a mood which continues for the duration of the song. Fine, I like music which captures a mood now and again, but not something I want to stick on all the time.

Having said that, I haven’t listened to an album of theirs in full. I’m going to resist giving them a score for now. I’ll probably give one of their albums a proper listen today or tomorrow and come back.

Kraftwerk sind die größten aller Zeiten. Sie sind fünf!

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806 samples according to whosampled.com, which is impressive but James Brown is getting on for 14,000

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I’d have loved to have been around Düsseldorf and seen these guys and Neu! and Can kicking about, having spent some time over there in the last couple years it’s kind of hard to imagine that at one glorious point there and Köln that it was the epicentre of one of the most exciting and innovative music scenes of all time at one point. But then there’s something very West German about a couple guys meeting at a music conservatoire and taking that training and turning into the most (pun intended) zeitgeist(y) music of the day.

Whether you found Bowie’s eye for latching on to hot music trends throughout his career disingenuous or not (given how good he was at it I tend to believe it was genuine) arguably his best album, Low, could not have happened without Kraftwerk.

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It was a bit boring. Don’t think it really works in a big outdoor setting like that.

The Meters must be up there too

someone give me a song to listen to so I can see whether my impressions of them arw wrong

I’d never gotten into them, I’d try them out every few years and usually just go, :man_shrugging: and move on.
I’m still mad with myself for going to see the Flaming Lips over them at the electric picnic 2006 though, but what are you going to do. Ah well.
I remember a song coming up on my Creative Zen on shuffle and wondering what Orbital song it was, it was The Robots and I’ve loved that track from that day.

But in general I was going to give them a 3 for being Very Important rather than liking them. That was till I listened to The Man Machine, Radio-activity and Computer World this morning. Em… This stuff is great and I have a lot of music to catch up on :smiley:

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If you don’t like this one I don’t think there’s much point going on with them.

Given just how influential Kraftwerk are, it’s difficult to think of an outfit that directly challenge them, like a Beatles / Stones thing, perhaps because that’s not really possible.

From the time / era I first heard them I really liked Landscape, mostly because I was just a kid then but I just got a nice nostalgic flashback from this, and this. Cheesy yes and not in the same league as Kraftwerk but a nice New Romantic leaning rip-off of sorts.

yeah I reckon I’ll leave it there, thanks anyway

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If you are looking for a contemporary with a similar claim to influence I would suggest Giorgio Moroder.

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