#121

apparently JD had a pact that they would change the name if any one member left (obviously they didn’t change their name from New Order when Peter Hook left years later though)

i do feel like the absence of any single member of Joy Division would have been much more noticeable than the absence of Richie though tbh

#122

There’s a very strong case for just starting anew when a key band member leaves or dies imo, just so the cultural referendum can be done without the legacy band just putting out dross. Tricky though innit.

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#123

always thought Nicky Wire was a huge prick obviously. but i saw MSP do a short set at 6Music festival in Belfast the other year and Nicky had to pull out at the last minute as his mother was ill, so they got some random bass tech to fill in for him, and i have to admit it the whole thing was even more boring than it would have been with him there.

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#124

Yeah it’s gorgeous. Got a feeling they themselves are not keen for no good reason?

#125

Wider point but it’s difficult when legacy bands keep going. REM should have ended in the 90s. The Cure should probably not be an ongoing concern (though Smith seems to have realised that no one is really interested in their new material). Ofc at a certain stage the band is a job for so many so it’s probably not so easy to just make 50+ people unemployed

#126

Going in Futurology for the first time after too many positive opinions in here. I’m not holding out much hope.

#127

First song sounds like The Stereophonics. This is going to be a tough listen

#128

I was embarrassed to have dragged my friends to that stage for MSP. A black mark upon my name

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#129

admittedly i did spend about 85% of their set wandering through the crowd trying to find my friends who had moved from the spot we had been in all day and were absolutely terrible at giving coherent directions on where to find them

#130

5/5 for me.

One of the gateway bands for me getting into rock music, plus I was in bands of my own and I liked their blueprint - close friends making it on their own terms. JDB is an amazing musician and Sean was an inspiration towards my own drumming journey.

That said, I don’t like everything they’ve put out - first four albums and Lifeblood are fantastic but I’m not a fan of TIMTTMY (although I adore The Everlasting) nor have I given RTF a serious listen (although I like the self-titled single).

KYE has some early bangers but I usually turn off before bloody Wattsville Blues kicks in, Futurology was a real return to form (title track aside) and JFPL has that link to the past which helps it remain worthwhile. Plenty to like on PFAYM and SATT too.

You’re Love Alone… is one of the best singles ever released ever, plus plenty of killer B-sides to delve into (Donkeys, Prologue To History, Automatik Teknicolour, Take the Skinheads Bowling, loads from the GT/GATS era).

Funnily enough, I stuck THB on during my journey into work this morning… :musical_note:

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#131

The title track is the worst one - I always skip it. Keep going.

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#132

One for the ‘things you were slow to realise’ thread…

#133

I have. Let’s Go To War was OK, the rest is still leaving me a little numb.

#134

Lyrics to this are a bit naff but the tune is top notch!

#135

What is this sorcery? Explain to me the story…

#136

Bumped them up from 3 to 4 for this, basically - their politics have always been pretty spot on. Never really been massively into them, and never owned any MSP albums, but at the same time I know loads of their songs, have read about them a lot, and have seen them several times and they’ve always been really good.

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#137

Just built on a sample innit. I had no idea until a couple of years ago when someone clued me in…

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#138

Not when you were a 17 yr old Slowdive fan it wasn’t !

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#139

Yeah I’ve never explored past the singles but that me manages to write pop songs out of those lyrics shows what a good songwriter/arranger he is.

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#140

Yup.

Wondering what a band made out of the dead/discarded members of bands that soldiered on regardless would sound like:

Ian Curtis: vocals (yes, I’m counting him).
Kim Deal: backing vocals, bass
Richey Manic: lyrics and some very primitive guitar
Isobel Campbell: violin and stuff, backing vocals
Bill Berry: drums (plus does the actual guitar work on the records)

Would absolutely see this band.

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