ah good - thought it was some sort of revisionist ‘I prefer the early stuff’ going on. That album was just so massive, maybe fans felt it was overplayed or something but I think you are spot on about Enter Sandman for a whole generation of kids.

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:smile::smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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Fucking hilarious. They get a two from me for providing something to be able to laugh heartily at. Fucking state of em.

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Never been in a proper pit but have had a good ol’ mosh/slam at club nights in the past. Favourite moment was in a very poorly attended mosh and my mates glasses came flying off. He crawled around, trying to find them (he’s practically blind without them), but every time he got close I kicked them a little bit further away. It was cruel and heartless behaviour from myself, but we can laugh about it now.

Should have got the band to help them find it.

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Extremely. Anti-authority from their earliest days (and being anti-authority under the Brazilian military government meant genuinely risking their lives) and have always been anti racist. Chaos AD is an album entirely about anti colonialism and Roots was concerned at least in part with the plight of Brazil’s indigenous population.

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Do you have anything to add to this thread other than offensive aspersions of an entire genre and its fans based on your extremely limited experiences of both? If not then go away.

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This is like, your favourite trope isn’t it? Blsnketing certain behaviours with the idea they equate to punching in tha face then making people defend themselves for doing things that do not equate to this

No one wants people punched in the face in a mosh pit, with the possible exception of a situation of finding Stephen Yaxley-Lennon in a mosh pit.

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no I was saying I wanted to punch people in the face, a girl I was friends with got pushed into a moshpit against her will, basically if you stand anywhere near the front whilst a metal band is playing better get prepared to get shoved around and potentially hurt.

Metallica at Download 2006 is probably the best set I’ve ever seen at a festival/big outdoor gig.

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Will never forget my auntie trying to do a charades for Metallica by licking a candlestick. Fucking excellent

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At Christmas my dad tried to do a Pictionary of Eminem by drawing an enema, and an M.

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It was a clear commercial turn from the first 4 records, especially moving to working with Bob Rock and a much more high sheen production style. I do like it (the singles are banging) but the second side is pretty weak, Nothing else Matters aside.

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Much like with psychill, I have a real internal battle with how bad the cultural appropriation is vs how much I enjoy the sonic effect of blending those musical tropes with elements of ‘western’ music.

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ok, sorry, I misread what you said as soon as I saw you talking about punching people in the face.

you shouldn’t punch people in the face, however, I agree that there is something wrong with moshpits and the perpetrators not accounting for everyone around them. In a gig, I’m not sure it’s possible to mosh in a way that’s safe for the entire crowd, so it probably shouldn’t happen.

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Will Smith pretending to be into them at the side of the stage is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. I’d never even heard of Clutch before the festival and went to see them purely to get out of the sun - was absolutely blown away!

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5/5

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A big Mark Kozelek fan I know tied me up to a chair, forced my eyes open Clockwork Orange style and played ISIS propaganda videos on a loop. Not sure how anyone can like the music of Kozelek after that.

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It’s easy with KS though because it’s totally without merit. :smiley:

There’s a much bigger discussion here, but it’s hard to define how you do it right. Graceland is an example of blending world music in a way that doesn’t feel like a musical tourist buying a dream-catcher. To me, anyway.

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