🎵 How Good Are They Really 🎵 Run-D.M.C.

…and that’s the way it is.

Fucked Up do well after a genuinely great thread:

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Fucked Up 3.80
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George Michael 3.41
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Big Thief 3.39
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Doves 3.26
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Taylor Swift 3.14
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AC/DC 3.00
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Queen 2.60
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U2 2.55
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Today;

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  • Run-D.M.C.
  • King Of Rock
  • Raising Hell
  • Tougher Than Leather
  • Back From Hell
  • Down With The King
  • Crown Royal

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  • It’s Like That
  • Hard Times
  • Rock Box
  • 30 Days
  • Hollis Crew (Kush Groove 2)
  • King Of Rock
  • You Talk Too Much
  • Can You Rock It Like This
  • Jam-Master Jammin
  • My Adidas
  • Walk This Way
  • You Be Illin’
  • It’s Tricky
  • Christmas In Hollis
  • Run’s House
  • Mary, Mary
  • I’m Not Going Out Like That
  • Papa Crazy
  • Pause
  • Ghostbusters
  • What’s It All About
  • Faces
  • Ooh, Whatcha Gonna Do
  • Down With The King
  • Can I Get It, Yo
  • Rock Show

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I am very very happy to give Run DMC a 5.

Will likely revise if this thread pulls up some dreadful shit they’ve done obviously because I realise now I know absolutely nothing about them beyond some tunes I’ve loved.

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And it goes a little something like this: 4

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I like them

Love them - 5. The first album I owned was Raising Hell on cassette, the first 12" was Christmas in Hollis (had Peter Piper on the b-side, which is what I really wanted).

Not sure what to say about them. I know they were quite a revelation in terms of sound at the time, but I’d not heard loads of other hip hop music so didn’t have much to compare them too. But they definitely set the tone for the sort of hip hop that I came to enjoy, even to this day.

Was just listening to the first Onyx album yesterday - RIP Jam Master Jay.

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As a sort of casual at best fan of hip hop, they seem odd in that they have this status as legendary but I don’t think I have ever heard anyone mention them or I’d even heard of any of those albums before this thread.

Got in to them through Down With The King, which is a pretty underrated album I think although very front-loaded. Same time I got into Onyx so I always link them in my mind even though say, throw ya gunz is miiiiiles away from My Adidas.

Like many people my age I suspect, they were my first exposure to rap, aged about twelve or so. Found it all very thrilling at the time, and me and my little friends decided to form our own rap band. I remember my parents were decorating the hallway at the time and let us scribble our verses, such as they were, on the bare walls before the new wallpaper went up. We had a tape of the Raising Hell album which got played loads that summer (in my childhood memories it’s always summer), but I can’t honestly say I’ve listened to them or given them a great deal of thought since. Total respect for being such early landmarks though.

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Ehh, I dunno about a million miles. Onyx definitely influenced by Run DMC - both from Queens, similar aggressive sound, and you have the Jam Master Jay connection (although I think Rick Rubin mostly produced Raising Hell).

A brilliant, genuinely exciting band in their day. Really important too, because the simplicity and directness of what they did really sold hip hop to rock audiences for the first time (even without Walk This Way, although that was obviously important too).

They’re a high four for me, perhaps that simplicity means they don’t quite resonate with me like some others. I would always be happy if one of their songs came on but I can’t see myself sitting down to listen to one of the albums.

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I meant lyrically tbh. Down with the king is a bit of an outlier I think in that it’s clearly a reaction to the west coast explosion, with ‘ooh whatcha gonna do’ etc, but yeah: in terms of production I can see the link.

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Ah, right - yes.

Have you listened to Bacdafucup recently? I’d not really revisited it since it came out, but popped it on the other day for the first time possibly since the 90s and it has aged really well. The rapping is very shouty, but the production is amazing.

I listened to the singles a couple of years ago, but not heard the full album for a good quarter of a century. Will check it out!

One of my friends used to put it on at full volume every time he came round my house and try and rap along - I snapped one day and threw the tape out of my bedroom window :laughing:

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Way before my time and only started listening to them way after I’d been exposed to way more complex hip-hop (last couple of years really), but still sound incredible to me. Love how stripped back it is and what a kick the drums pack.

Probably a 4 on how much I listen to them, extra bonus point for influence and bonus takes them to 5.

Yeah, same for me. Whole album of those beats is a bit of a slog.

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Damn - a lot of cameos in this video I’d forgotten about. Eazy-E, Onyx, and is that Kriss Kross?!

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From being into Electro from 1982 onwards, mostly the Electro series albums, Hip-Hop was a genre I liked a lot. It was fresh, you could move to it and it was cool and futuristic as fuck - in every sense.

The ascension of RUN DMC up to and including Raising Hell was game changing. Bigger, bolder, sharper and it felt smack up to date, even dating the Electro records. They had Rock sensibilities and for a period were real icons.

I do feel in November 1986 the Beastie Boys cantered past them with their debut Licensed To Ill. It was even more accessible and even cooler than RUN DMC. I’m not sure the playground the Beasties grew up so quickly in would have been so fruit-full if RUN DMC hadn’t paved the way for them.

They are icons and responsible for some huge fusion of genres, which is something I love, yet they are not an outfit I listen to regularly other than by exposure.

The legacy and what they paved the way for is a 5. The music, and don’t get me wrong, they have some fantastic tracks, but where is their real classic album? It’s not there. Iconic albums yes but rinse them dry albums, no. The music is overall a 3. Giving me a tidy sum of 4.

You don’t get more iconic than this…

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Hovering between 4 and 5. I’m really drawn to the simplicity and rawness in their best stuff. I feel I owe them for having vehemently loathed the Jason Nevins remix of It’s Like That in the 90s when I was a tragic Britpop wanker.

Enjoyed this track, b-side to It’s Like That, was close to playing this in Music League.

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