đŸŽ” How Good Are They Really đŸŽ” Simon & Garfunkel/Paul Simon

Hello and welcome to the first double HGATR vote!

Mogwai score well

Artist Rating
Aretha Franklin 4.64
Nina Simone 4.57
Neil Young 4.48
Miles Davis 4.42
Talking Heads 4.39
R.E.M. 4.38
Beastie Boys 4.36
Otis Redding 4.34
The Velvet Underground 4.33
David Bowie 4.31
The Beatles 4.31
Pixies 4.30
Leonard Cohen 4.30
The Cure 4.28
Björk 4.27
Mogwai 4.24
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds 4.22
Marvin Gaye 4.21
Aphex Twin 4.18
PJ Harvey 4.17
Stevie Wonder 4.17
Nirvana 4.15
Joy Division 4.15
Radiohead 4.13
The Supremes 4.13
Pavement 4.12
Prince 4.11
Wu-Tang Clan 4.11
Nick Drake 4.10
Elliott Smith 4.09
Pulp 4.08
Public Enemy 4.08
Sonic Youth 4.08
Sleater-Kinney 4.08
Kate Bush 4.07
OutKast 4.07
Portishead 4.03
Super Furry Animals 4.03
Black Sabbath 4.03
MF DOOM 4.01
Bob Dylan 3.97
Kendrick Lamar 3.97
Low 3.96
Robyn 3.96
The Beach Boys 3.93
Jimi Hendrix 3.93
LCD Soundsystem 3.92
Joni Mitchell 3.89
Massive Attack 3.89
Bruce Springsteen 3.84
The Clash 3.77
Dolly Parton 3.77
Pet Shop Boys 3.76
Modest Mouse 3.76
Blondie 3.73
Bright Eyes 3.71
Rage Against The Machine 3.71
The National 3.68
The Ramones 3.67
ABBA 3.66
Kanye West 3.65
Arcade Fire 3.64
Blur 3.61
The Smiths 3.57
Beyoncé 3.54
Yeah Yeah Yeahs 3.54
Carly Rae Jepsen 3.51
The Chemical Brothers 3.49
Bob Marley & The Wailers 3.48
Jeff Buckley 3.47
Idlewild 3.42
Madonna 3.40
Manic Street Preachers 3.39
Fleetwood Mac 3.39
The Notorious B.I.G. 3.37
Toots & The Maytals 3.35
The White Stripes 3.34
Supergrass 3.32
Hole 3.31
The Smashing Pumpkins 3.30
Suede 3.30
Steely Dan 3.29
Elton John 3.28
The Pogues 3.28
Kylie Minogue 3.27
The Specials 3.26
Sugababes 3.22
Thin Lizzy 3.22
Rihanna 3.19
The Prodigy 3.18
Led Zeppelin 3.16
Ash 3.16
Pink Floyd 3.15
Taylor Swift 3.14
Jay-Z 3.14
Arctic Monkeys 3.14
Interpol 3.12
TLC 3.12
Los Campesinos! 3.10
The Rolling Stones 3.09
Destiny’s Child 3.05
Primal Scream 3.04
Shower Cans 3.04
The Strokes 3.03
Elvis Presley 3.02
Weezer 2.97
Amy Winehouse 2.95
Girls Aloud 2.93
Frank Sinatra 2.92
2Pac 2.91
The Doors 2.89
Lizzo 2.86
Belle And Sebastian 2.85
Britney Spears 2.85
Metallica 2.81
Green Day 2.81
Madness 2.80
The Jam 2.75
Basement Jaxx 2.75
Oasis 2.71
Whitney Houston 2.69
Slayer 2.65
The Sex Pistols 2.63
Lady Gaga 2.61
Queen 2.60
Billy Joel 2.57
Foo Fighters 2.57
U2 2.55
Justin Timberlake 2.52
Biffy Clyro 2.48
Dire Straits 2.43
Bloc Party 2.41
Cher 2.40
Eminem 2.38
Mariah Carey 2.32
Rancid 2.26
The Killers 2.22
The Who 2.22
Blink-182 2.21
Adele 2.05
Kings Of Leon 2.01
Red Hot Chili Peppers 1.90
The Spice Girls 1.81
Stereophonics 1.74

And now, I figured that S&G and Paul Simon both deserved separate votes but probably best to combine them into one big thread, so here we are!

SIMON & GARFUNKEL

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PAUL SIMON

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Simon & Garfunkel

Album

  • Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M.
  • Sounds Of Silence
  • Parsley, Sage, Rosemary And Thyme
  • Bookends
  • Bridge Over Troubled Water

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From the ‘Greatest Hits’

  • Mrs. Robinson
  • For Emily, Whenever I May Find Her
  • The Boxer
  • The 59th Street Bridge Song
  • The Sound of Silence
  • I Am a Rock
  • Scarborough Fair/Canticle
  • Homeward Bound
  • Bridge over Troubled Water
  • America
  • Kathy’s Song
  • El Condor Pasa (If I Could)
  • Bookends
  • Cecilia

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Paul Simon

Album

  • The Paul Simon Songbook
  • Paul Simon
  • There Goes Rhymin’ Simon
  • Still Crazy After All These Years
  • One-Trick Pony
  • Hearts And Bones
  • Graceland
  • The Rhythm Of The Saints
  • Songs From The Capeman
  • You’re The One
  • Surprise
  • So Beautiful Or So What
  • Stranger To Stranger
  • In The Blue Light

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And from ‘The Best Of’

  • Graceland
  • You Can Call Me Al
  • Mother and Child Reunion
  • The Cool, Cool River
  • 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover
  • The Obvious Child
  • The Boy in the Bubble
  • Rene and Georgette Magritte With Their Dog After the War
  • Late in the Evening
  • Bernadette
  • Slip Slidin’ Away
  • Take Me to the Mardi Gras
  • Diamonds On the Soles of Her Shoes
  • Still Crazy After All These Years
  • Kodachrome
  • Loves Me Like a Rock
  • Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard
  • Hearts and Bones
  • Trailways Bus

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Both a 5. Easy money.

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Graceland alone gets Paul Simon a 5

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Out of interest, regarding Paul Simon as a solo artist:

  • I’ve only ever listened to the album Graceland
  • I have actually listened to other albums
  • I have never heard Graceland but I am otherwise familiar with his solo work
  • DKWHIP

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And

  • I always knew that was Chevy Chase in the Call Me Al video
  • I originally thought Chevy Chase was Paul Simon

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And

  • I knew he was Mr Carrie Fisher
  • I did not know this and my mind is blown
  • Not on Star Wars book so I don’t care

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Dead weird this. I was walking to work this morning listening to Fall of Efrafa which led me to order the Blu Ray of Watership Down at 6am which in turn led me to think of Bright Eyes by Art Garfunkel (gasps for air).

Always thought growing up they were really boring but I have really enjoyed Bookends recently. Have they really only got 5 studio albums? I’m going to abstain only due to lack of listening to the actual albums although it is clear they have some fantastic individual songs.

Is Paul really held in much higher regard than Art?

I prefer the Kings of Convenience. Sorry.

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Keep the Customer Satisfied is an outrageously good tune.

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Gone with a 4 for both. My mum fucking loves S&G so I heard a lot growing up but but I never got it at all until about a year or so ago when I gave it another go and it clicked, same with Simon’s solo stuff really, which I enjoy much more regularly. That list of PS singles is ridiculously strong, a toss up between Me And Julio and Still Crazy
 for me but could be any of about 5 or 6 realistically. Haven’t gone that deep on the S&G albums past Bookends and BOTW but am going to give them a go over the next couple of days. Clearly amazing songwriters and highly influential.

Paul Simon solo is way superior to S+G. I find the duo a bit too twee and saccharine, but on his solo records he becomes a little more acerbic, plus to my ears he just gets better at songwriting.

I’m sure someone will be along in a bit to explain why it is bad to listen to Graceland, but it really did open a door on (South) African music. I’ve spent hundreds of hours since listening to and enjoying Loketo, Manu Dibango, Bhundu Boys, Four Brothers, and many others, and I’m not at all sure I would have if it hadn’t been for that album hitting me at a formative age. (Not setting myself up as some world music purist here - I have also spent thousands of hours listening to whiny indie sad boys and metal records about goblins).

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Fives all the way. This was the setlist when I saw him play a three-hour set at the Royal Albert Hall - it was, without doubt, one of the best gigs I’ve ever seen.

@riverwise This is a fascinating read on Graceland and the controversy around it at the time and afterwards: Paul Simon's Graceland: the acclaim and the outrage | Paul Simon | The Guardian

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Reckon there’s a strong case to make for The Only Living Boy In New York being the greatest song ever made

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An incredible amount of turgid shite outside Graceland. Noises what to score it

Never listened to Graceland. Maybe today could be the day?

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Actually this might be as good a place as any to ask. Anyone know where to get access to Saturday Night Live old episodes or archives? This episode in particular: https://trakt.tv/shows/saturday-night-live/seasons/13/episodes/8

It featured Paul Simon and Linda Ronstadt doing Under African Skies with the same musicians on Graceland and it is phenomenal. I used to have a video of it but it’s long gone.

A clip is featured on this: BBC Four - Classic Albums, Paul Simon: Graceland but sadly this isn’t available any more either.

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despite being an absolutely terrible name for a record There Goes Rhymin’ Simon has some absolute crackers on it like this

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Afaik Art never wrote any of the songs so they’re not really comparable

5 duh

anyone who loves Graceland but hasn’t gone further PLEASE go check out Rhythm of the Saints, it’s got loads of the same magic.

Those two and the Songbook are all timers. Also really dig a lot of bits from across his solo catalogue but he does like to layer on the schmaltz which means full albums can be a struggle.

Paul’s still sounding great and doing interesting stuff now, this is from a few years ago

also shout out to the last track on Graceland, which is sometimes neglected but is such a banger

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Simon & Garfunkel are, in my opinion, very boring but have a few genuinely 5/5 songs which means I have to go for a three.

The only solo Paul Simon song I’ve knowingly heard is “You Can Call Me Al” and I fucking hate it.

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