#43

Yeah I get that, but more interested in this band in particular and why they seem to get a total pass. If it’s mentioned at all it’s usually framed as ‘something that punk bands did’ when it wasn’t that widespread at all. There was Sid Vicious, them and then I’m struggling. She absolutely refuses to take any questions on it and will only comment to sycophantic journos who toe the line: “oh yes, well it’s practically the duty of rock and rollers to annoy their parents isn’t it? Very good. On we go”. Either that or it’s contextualised as some sort of weird fashion thing. Like that article you’ve posted above equating it with Snoop’s Norwich top or Bono’s sunglasses. I mean you yourself say that normally you’d give a band a kicking for this sort of stuff but you’re not going to with them. Just wondering why this band get to have their history airbrushed and most other bands don’t really. Find this sort of thing interesting

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#45

they were a big influence on U2 I think
as well as loads of other bands, legacy section on their wiki is pretty good going

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#46

I could keep posting songs but this was from '78. It just doesn’t sound like anything else back then.

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#47

Beat me to it, easily my favourite song of theirs, so good.

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#48

That incredible run of 8 singles from ‘Happy House’ to ‘Melt’ might be my favourite of any 80’s band and ‘JuJu’ is a hair’s breadth away from being a classic album (John McGeoch!). Really not into the early punk stuff though (the scream, join hands). As influential as it is I think loads of bands did that sort of thing much better. ‘Peepshow’ is a very good late period album and their other albums are very patchy but I reckon they possibly suffered there by being a little too prolific. 4/5

Love this galloping, string laden banger from ‘Hyaena’ (featuring Robert Smith on guitar)

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#49

I watched a killing joke documentary recently and it was saying how much Geordie and big Paul Ferguson were massively influenced by early banshees. I can hear it but it did surprise me a little tbh.

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#50

A wiki page dedicated to this ‘fashion’ statement


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#51

This has always put me right off listening to her much.

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#52

This is kind of the point though. Don’t think it should really be seen or excused as a ‘fashion’ statement. ‘Nazi chic’ shouldn’t be a normalised term.

The Phranc song that @sarahispi has posted puts it far better than I am

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#53

Can’t knowingly recall a song of theirs, though guess I’ve probably heard them at some point. Abstain. They should’ve gone for Susan & The Banshees imo.

#54

When @Brainfreeze beat us in the draw for the 200th HGATR i stated i’d vote whoever he put forward a 1 and i stand by that! :smiley: :wink: :wink: :wink:
I’m not actually that childish. :slight_smile:

Another one of those bands who i only know a few tracks by but love those tracks whilst never getting round and spending proper time with.
I shall remedy that in light of this thread.

Best place to start???

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#55

Thanks for running these Funk man (and of course our guest HGATRs hosts). You’re a god damned hero.

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#57

Extraordinary right from the get-go which you have to say is rare. I mean
 talk about arriving ‘fully formed’ holy shit

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#58

Also a total banger with a newly drafted in Bob Smith.


 and check out the intro :smile: !

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#59

I must have been 9 years old when I found my older sisters compilation tape. I can’t remember what was on it apart from one song that I would rewind and rewind to play again and again. That song was Cities in Dust. What a song! What a vocal delivery! I was transfixed. My next experiences of the band were them doing Peek-a-boo on Top of the pops and when John Peel would have them in session.
Weirdly I’ve never dressed as a goth or considered myself a goth but back in the late 80’s I was mesmerised by The Mission, The Sisters of Mercy, The Cure and of course Siouxsie.
For me Siouxsie is an icon and has legendary status reserved for very few artists. From the Bill Grundy appearance right up to the many musical directions she has moved in she has always been way ahead of many other artists.
If she popped up on a record by some of today’s artists she would blow that song away. I often imagine what she would sound like on a Blanck Mass track or a Mogwai track or such like. I can only dream.
The fivest of fives. For a legendary band and singer!

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#60

Most likely a 5, but gonna have to revisit a few albums before my final vote.
Scream and Juju are brilliant though, thats for sure.

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#61

truly a generation-defining moment

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#62

Don’t know them at all but also agree that wearing Swastika’s as a fashion statement is pretty silly and “lol it’s for the kids to offend the pigs” but then a lot of that first wave punk scene in London was quite silly really which deconstructing this is an underrated aspect of what makes Rik and Vivyan in The Young Ones so great.

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#63

Have you read Viv Albertine’s book? That’s basically the gist of it.

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