#421

Understandable though if we’re just going off the albums they’re together it’s the 5iest of 5s

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#422

Think the best of Coltrane and Davis are comparable I think. Couldn’t pick between them if I had to, and that’s then leaving out all the other heads.

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#423

Yeah absolutely, can see that. It’s harder than rock or pop to define separately since so much of their acts and careers intersect and splinter off and rejoin etc, whereas bands tend to stay as succinct units, and half the stone cold classics are just improvised records someone filmed one night rather than sitting down and building an album (though there’s obviously some of those too)

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#424

reckon Miles Davis will be top unless you get loads of people voting him down on the basis of hating jazz

#425

Big time. It’s such a huge, interlinked world that you can jump from player to player to player in a never ending succesion of albums each one played on.

Getting into big band stuff now thanks to my GF’s late grandfather and seeing how that evolved is blowing me away. Can’t wait to dig into bebop properly and lose my shit.

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#426

Feel sad for Elliott that people could dislike him, he went through enough already

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#427

Feels like a good position for them. Glad they aren’t above Neil Young. Glad they’re above REM.

#428

Would be a bit stupid really. Like fine, fair enough in an objective way but would feel hollow and disingenuous for a community that’s collectively shown little to no interest in jazz backing it up through a sense or reverence and reestablishing the critical canon. Kind of feel that way about the current #1 tbh.

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#429

Finally listened to “The Name of This Band is Talking Heads”, I’d been putting put it off because everyone always says it’s actually better than “Stop Making Sense” and I’ve always been like “yeah, no way it’s actually better than ‘Stop Making Sense’”, but you know what?

It’s not better than “Stop Making Sense”.

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#430

or being violent towards partners

#431

can’t wait for the big U2 off! :grinning: :joy:

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#432

I swear I need an encyclopedia of artists that have been cancelled, I can’t keep up

#433

oh and the beach boys should do well

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#434

dunno, think him and aretha are both huge enough to have transcended their genres. loads of people including myself who aren’t that knowledgeable about jazz but still get a lot out of his music

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#435

Name of This Band is a great best-of/retrospective type thing - disc 2 is kind of the v.0.9 of SMS

But I always thought SMS was better too - better arrangements, nice concept, tighter all round

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#436

Not that he’s been cancelled per se but he was a horrible person. Beating women was only part of it.

#437

Not saying people are lying or not allowed to like them and this is with no comment on their work, just that for Miles Davis, Aretha Franklin (or… Ray Charles, Woody Guthrie, whatever - sacred cows for good reason) to come out on top is a very inaccurate picture of this forum’s taste.

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#438

Just put The Name of this Band is Talking Heads on for the first time in a billion years. A Clean Break is so good.

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#439

Think the basis for voting has changed for a lot of people as the threads have gone on (it certainly has for me). In the early days I was a lot more respectful of the canon and perceived importance was a part of my calculation, which it definitely isn’t anymore. We also seem to have moved away a bit from marking down output because the artist was a dick as well, or maybe we just haven’t covered any dicks recently.

Also this forum is very much geared towards the new, and there isn’t, these threads aside, very much looking back. I still listen to loads of old stuff, but just don’t talk about it here that much.

Miles is still a 5 though, and that’s just for A Tribute To Jack Johnson, let alone the half dozen records that are better than that.

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#440

Good point. These threads have been an excellent insight into the wider music listening of dissers. Previous threads on older music never seemed to get much traction.

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