Nana why donāt you get a job?
Listen buddy, my grandma worked hard all her life and deserves her retirement. Show some damned respect.
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Think the Nirvana comparison is quite spot on, as much as I like Self Esteem as a song it is very marketed towards the āgrungeā aesthetic created by the Smells Like Teen Spirit video.
Also, I know itās a cover but gotta keep them separated is basically the same as Nirvanaās version of Love Buzz
Upped my vote to 5 for a laugh
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Canāt remember for sure, thatās the last year I went, but it might have been earlier. I think Americana was still the most recent albumā¦
There was a void after Nirvana and bands like The Offspring were well placed to attempt to fill it. Feel a tad bad about the 1 rating but itās my honest gut reaction to them. They are a fun sounding band but thereās nothing there that does anything for me and the whole feel of them, despite them having some very catchy songs feels off and a million miles away from what Punk really kind of means.
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Kurtās body was found the very day Smash came out. Coincidence?
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While I agree with your cynicism about them (and I share it too Iām not daft) I am actually a little surprised you donāt like Smash a bit more or that it saves some grace because it genuinely a very good album, but I guess is everything that came after just too much to reconcile?
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adds Dexter Holland and Noodles to the list of potential Kurt Cobain murderers underneath Courtney Love, that wrestler guy, Billy Corgan and Steve Coogan
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I didnāt know this but am getting a weird kind of symmetry reading this now.
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Week of my first ever football match. I chose Burnley. No wonder that weekās made the world go downhill ever since.
shudders
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Smash is full of great songs and as such is a good record. I donāt hate them or hate on them. I do find them shallow and the Sony Punk really big selling records feel really formulaic taylor designed to sell shedloads, marketed as Punk which is the antithesis of the genre they kind of represent. Kudos for being a gateway band at best, but thatās it.
Should add the lead singer, no idea of his name has done some notably work with Jello Biafra but hey, they are poor.
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Theyāre about as much as āpunkā as chicken tikka is āhot and spicy.ā But Iām ok with them being called āpunk-popā/āpop-punkā as Itās a far snappier title than āpower pop played by men with improper haircuts and trouser length for 43ā
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Very loudly. With mixed results.
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I guess what I meant was, yes they did become big corporate sell outs, but can you keep Smash, the greatest selling independent record of all time, separated? 
Smash is a decent record for sure but thereās no depth to the band. No insight, good with beer maybe - but when you have a platform like they did, from the genre they represented back then, they could have done more but chose some cartoon Punk laced with chasing the dollar Nevermind nodded at so knowingly.
I think youāre overthinking my question slightly, but I appreciate the insight all the same
My problem in this instance is that for me, I just think they do what they do badly, apart from a couple of singles. I like a lot of Blink 182.
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Oh man this is tough. Another one of those bands - like Green Day, actually - where thereās a very distinct cut-off point prior to which you could argue them as a 4 or 5 based on several classic albums and what they single-handedly did for the independent punk scene in the 90s.
But then theyā¦ they just kept on goingā¦ and we ended up with Bumpinā In My Trunk.
Giving them a 3, but really it should be a 4 for the years up to and including 2000, and a 1 for just about everything since.
what did they do?