Must have been something in the last 15 years!

Kanye
Kendrick
Bon Iver
Arcade Fire
Lorde

Not quite the same are they? Maybe LCD are as close as there has been.

Arcade Fire came to my mind too. The Strokes too I guess, mainly because there was an awful lot of dross around when they broke through.

It’s an opinion, is it any more or less patronising to say people who like Queen are mad? Both clearly, unqualifiably suggest that our tastes are better than those who like said bands. There’s a lot of people in this thread who would absolutely pity me for liking the Smiths and Morrissey, and that’s ok.

Yeah I think I would have gone all in for The Strokes if I had been 17 when the first album came out.

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Haha you’ve just described me.

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Oh entirely. I reckon I would have loved LCD Soundsystem if I was maybe seven or eight years younger but to me they’re kind of

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What I’m talking about is something beyond being an artist that people really like - it’s the sort of artist that profoundly affects the deepest parts of your personality- what you think about the world, what books you read, what films you watch, the way you conduct your relationships. The Smiths certainly did that to me - do artists still do that for teenagers now? I’m sure they must do but nowadays the cultural world is more readily available in other forms - if you were growing up in a small town in the 70s or 80s then the right sort of band was a window into a cultural world that otherwise would never have been there for you. Not sure that still happens (or not with music, anyway).

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This is how your quote came out in my head for some reason or other

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I did love that first Strokes album. I don’t think I’ve listened to it in about 10 years but I rinsed it considerably when it came out… I was 22 at the time. Still think of Soma as one of those songs I wish I’d written.

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Couple of people I work with (19/20) are like this with Billie Eilish. I think Lizzo to a certain extent too people relate to with regards to body image, positivity etc in a way that goes deeper than just the music.

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I get that totally. Think she’s great. Can see that for Lorde & Lana and a few others too. Doesn’t feel quite the same when they have such a big marketing machine behind them though does it.

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I have some friends (and my sister) who are seriously into Billie Eilish in their early 30s. Her appeal is definitely broad, and getting broader.

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yeah I’m sure up to 23/24 I would have loved the album, I’d just kind of moved onto other stuff by the time it came out. Great sugar rush guitar music though, totally get the appeal.

Oh definitely, I know people of all ages that are really into her, but the people in their teens/20ish that I know seem to have that connection BI69 was describing with her in a way others don’t. Obviously there are exceptions but I think it’s a specific thing to being that kind of age a lot of the time, whoever ‘your’ band might be.

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My kids are both teenagers and they love their music but they tend to move from one thing to another quite quickly instead of being deeply attached to one artist which I think is typical these days. For my daughter I think her ‘fandoms’ (film/books/tv) and the online communities that form around them have more of the sort of effect I’m talking about than music does.

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Yeah maybe it’s this. Films, tv, books etc seem to branch out into interactivity and ‘fandoms’ more than music, I’m guessing because of the sheer volume of music you can consume so easily as well. Arctic Monkeys are the last band I can think of (I might be wrong, I’m 35 and not really in the loop on these matters) that built a fanbase online and developed a community of people sharing burnt CDs etc before putting anything out.

But did they change anybody’s life? I doubt it.

I always think of interviews with people like Holly Johnson or Boy George or Ian McCulloch talking about how their whole lives were changed by one Bowie appearance on Top of the Pops. Hard to see that happening now.

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Frank Ocean is a stronger shout than any of those I think.

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I’m in the “don’t understand the appeal” group. Maybe if I’d been a teen at the time, and it seemed like Morissey was the only person alive doing that sort of thing, I’d be into it.

But in 2020 it kind of astounds me why people would listen to them, not even taking into account The Morissey Issues. All the tracks sound weak and flimsy. Completely devoid of texture.

Not for me Clive (1/5)

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