i thought there was a thread on here but i can’t find it so maybe i imagined all this somehow

Fuck it, 1 - couldn’t stand their music as a teenager, and they were utterly rife among the “deadly serious music fans” who were unsubtly condescending to everyone else, so this is admittedly utterly not to do to with their music and everything to do with the “if you don’t like it you obviously aren’t intelligent enough to understand it” knobs from when I was 15.

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Basically I’m @owensmaterob 5 years ago, but I’m okay with that.

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Tbh nu-metal does arguably go back that far thanks to Rage and KoRn

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Two of their best songs, ironically :rofl:

i used to let out an involuntary laugh every time i saw the last Perfect Circle album cover in the shops when it came out

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Yeah there was discussion about this before in here I think

Lateralus remains an incredible record, still completely stands up, the rest I’ve never really had the patience for bar a handful of songs, given the 4 on the basis of that being on of my favourite albums with a point knocked off for Keenan being a creep and the rest being not as exciting/interesting

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ok that is bad

IIRC they were quite publicly debunked by someone who, in the process, revealed him to be exactly as sleazy as one would expect a 90s rock star to be, but importantly very consensually. Something to do with specific backstage passes for groupies.

The whole thing was quite unpleasant but entirely consensual and still nothing on the shit that, say, David Bowie, gets an inexplicable pass for.

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There definitely was at least one very serious allegation, which is still easily googleable.

Edit to say that @Owensmaterob has covered it above, but I’m not 100% sure it was that thoroughly debunked.I don’t think the victim has said anything since the initial allegation.

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2 from me, and 2.00 would be about right on the leaderboard - better than the Libertines but they’re no Kings of Leon.

Good to run to. 4/5

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Only half the board give David Bowie a pass really though, plenty of people mention it. If you have a problematic fave as an adult it’s best to accept and reflect on it.

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Absolutely. Some of the best drummers I’ve ever seen have about five pieces in their kits. That’s just wankery.

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I disagree, but that said:

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Seems pretty accurate

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awful band
1/5

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Right but my point is that there are, as far as I’m aware, no credible accusations against MJK that come anywhere near what DB did. Massive 90s Rock Band Have Their Employees Pick Out Women And Offer Them The Chance To Shag isn’t a nice thing but it’s also not exactly shocking is it

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Lightning Bolt, for instance

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Shocked me a bit but only because I assumed the situation would arise more organically, seems especially cold to systematise it that way

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their albums up to and including lateralus are good, but they’re a bit shit since then and maynard does seem like a bit of a scumbag. generous 4/5

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