Didn’t like this at all at first but I’m coming around. Strangely getting a bit hooked on it actually, but I’m not entirely sure if it’s because I like it or because I keep wanting it to be something that it’s not (probably a bit of both). It still mostly feels like a very promising but sometimes frustratingly underwhelming EP padded out with 35 minutes of ā€œArt.ā€ Think there’s a much better album hiding in here and I really want to hear it.

I can definitely hear how this has been influential (Grizzly Bear / Slint, Unwound, and Oh Sees were my instant thoughts from the first three songs respectively) and how it probably was a big deal at the time. The drummer is obviously outstanding and adds a lot to the music.

There are some very good moments - most notably the bit that starts at the 4:00 mark of Paperhouse - but I can’t help but feel they could have been arranged a bit differently to maximize impact. Mushroom is so promising (love how menacing it is, and the detached delivery of the simple lyrics) but it never really explodes the way it naturally feels it should and kind of deflates instead. I like that melodic shift halfway through Oh Yeah, and how it quickly morphs into tension just after.

Hated Halleluwah at first but I’m starting to legitimately like it even though it’s so jammy. I like the sort of weird dream logic that’s flowing through the song and the first half of the album in general. If the album’s second half had continued down that road then Halleluwah would be even more effective - right now it feels like a jam inserted before a bunch of noise, rather than a surreal album centerpiece carrying you off to Side 2. Really like how the drums basically take over as lead a bit after 2 minutes in and how the whole thing starts pulsing pretty effortlessly just before the 4 minute mark. Oh and that disorienting ascending bit that starts a bit after 15 minutes in is neat, and how it surprisingly breaks out of it with light funk guitars (adding sentences as I’m re-listening, obviously). Guess I like this song after all!

The album’s second half is a massive miss for me though. (Not to open the canon can of worms but feel pretty confident in saying that if The Mars Volta had released this, critics would be saying something very different from ā€œa double album without a wasted note.ā€)

I would love to hear a version of this album where the second half is an extension of the first, and the whole thing is a bit more aggressive and explosive (totally get that this probably makes me basic). Right now it feels like a group of skilled musicians jamming and coming up with some great ideas, falling a bit short on assembling them to their full potential, and then sabotaging the promise with 35 minutes of noise collages.

Glad I kept going with this though and didn’t give in to my initial impression. After several listens I can say now that I do like the first four songs. It’s been a neat discovery and I’m a bit fascinated by it.

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Never knew this until now:

The Flaming Lips album In a Priest Driven Ambulance contains a song called ā€œTake Meta Marsā€, which was an attempt at covering the song ā€œMushroomā€. However, the band members had only heard the song once and didn’t have a copy of it at the time, so the song is only similar-sounding and not a proper cover.[41]

Kind of wish more bands wrote songs this way.

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I mean that leaves a 38 minute EP you know! :wink:

But I agree with you otherwise except I enjoyed the first 4 tracks immediately. The second 4 are definitely… Umm.

As a record the first 4 are on one disc and the second 4 are on another so I guess in that context it was a different sort of thing where you would (almost certainly) keep coming back to disc 1 and occasionally test your nerve with the crazier stuff. As double albums go that’s maybe the best option.

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also shout out to Aspectacle, off the underrated Inner Space/ self-titled final album:

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Very much this, but Tago Mago is still a classic.

Sounds a bit like what Dirty Projectors did with their Rise Above interpretations album of Black Flag Damaged covers…

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Just listened to this walking home from work. I’ve never heard to before. Unfair to score on one listen - but it’s great and possibly an 8.

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Okay. I’ve just listened to this again walking back again from work. 2nd listen and it is now fantastic. Really love that I cannot make out hardly any lyrics and I’m not even certain what language they are singing in our even if it’s a made up language. I know I could Google this but I don’t want to. It’s a bit like a treasure trove. Fantastic musicianship with a lovely drum sound. Love the jamming and tighter parts also. Madly, it also sounds a little like the Happy Mondays in places. Might be a 9, too soon to tell really.

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Listened to this record for the first time in a long time and I’m properly in love with most of it. Obviously tracks 5-6 are very challenging but much of it is absolutely gorgeous. The chord progression in Paperhouse is so lilting and fragile, and then the way the propulsive mid-section resolves back to that is beautiful. You can tell these guys were tight. Jaki is a staggeringly great drummer.

I used to be pretty ambivalent towards Halleluwah but now I release how amazing it is. All these brilliant drum overdubs and weird ambient bits over that insistent drumming. You can definitely hear the influence on Boredoms’ stuff like Vision Creation Newsun- the tribal drums and textures especially. The National Anthem by Radiohead has a similar, angular groove, and the discipline of the instruments playing out such a groove Damo doing his incantations above it is an obvious influence on The Fall, especially tunes like Winter (Hostel Maxi) and, of course, I Am Damo Suzuki (as if the title wasn’t a big enough hint!).

I’ll go for an 8. It’s incredibly influential but still has enough drive, groove and emotional punch to make it much more than a historical artefact. Even if I’ll still have to work on tracks 5-6…

Also, a reminder that Lost Somebody, a beautiful late A Tribe Called Quest song paying tribute to Phife Dog, sampled the relaxing bit in Halleluwah to great effect.

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Listened to this again. 3rd listen.

It’s brilliant.

No idea what he is singing about, almost in tongues.

ā€œWhen I saw mushroomhead, in my garden, I kept my distance, and listened to Slayerā€

Amazing album.

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God 5 more hours to waut

This record is perfect if you only listen to the first disc

Aumgn is better than I remember

Peking O / Coffee Or Tea is one of the single worst sides of music I can think of

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7.92

slightly better than S****** D****

7.92 for Tago Mago. Very good score considering there was quite a lot of negative comments about the ā€˜difficult’ tracks

@Kallgeese can you choose a track that isn’t Halleluwah please?

Well now, this is interesting, a dead heat between Head Hunters and Pet Sounds. Really surprised by this considering in the ā€˜Your favourite albums of the 1970s’ thread not a single person has said Head Hunters. Time for Discobot…

Has to be ā€˜Oh Yeah’ for me!

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@discobot you goose, pick Headhunters!

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Thanks!

1.Head Hunters
2. Pet Sounds

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