Keep meaning to watch this


Amazon seems to have a few docs on old era wwf folks.

Jakes in AEW now right?

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saw this a few years ago, it’s tough going at times but ultimately great, the real star of course being DDP and his yoga programme

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Cool.
Might hold off until we’re discussing Jake.
This and Beyond the Mat could be recommended viewing.
Wrestling film club.

PS there’s a Ted Dibiase doc that looks good too.

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He is but he’s recently been diagnosed with severe COPD so walking to the ring and doing a short promo is as much as he can do now. He’s on AEW Dark on YouTube every week saying something enigmatic and disturbing while his current charge Lance Archer roughs somebody up. Glad he’s still able to work in some capacity but it’s a bit strange.

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need to watch that, huh

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It recently went up on Netflix of that helps

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oh damn, that does help! much better than watching the Youtube version, as I just have

“they were beginning a push… for Droz”

ahaha

*ah, the quality’s very much the same

What’s the difference between a legit and non-legit libertarian?

I think Jesse Ventura is the only wrestler who’s flirted with politics who wasn’t Republican.

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DDP is a modern day saint. Wasn’t the biggest fan of his when he was wrestling, but my word to get two of the biggest substance abusers clean is a monumental feat of achievement.

Can attest to how great his DDPY is, by using it myself.

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There are a lot of self proclaimed libertarians that use the political belief of minimal government intervention as a means to justify hate speech and hate crimes. Thats the key differentiation. Was just outlying that Glenn Jacobs practices and belibes in the key economic beliefs of libertarians. Thats all. Not saying they’re good or nowt just a lot of incredibly toxic people use it as a crutch

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completely agree, love the man, and am also a DDPY head :smiley:

setting up next thread now in case there’s any last minute Kane votes still to come in!

Ah nice, how long have you been doing it for?
I’ve only been doing it for 10 weeks, the change though is quite noticeable already. It’s the power in the body that is the main, the range of movement too. I’m using it to help lose weight, but also to “hold back the hands of time” due to my age

err, currently lapsed and should really get back on it, but I’ve been doing it off and on for about 4 years now?

But yeah its pretty incredible how much of a difference it makes without even really needing to do anything that exhausting. I had done a bit of regular yoga anyway before this so had an awareness going in that it’s all about accepting your limitations, getting a bit better every day and controlling your breath, but DDP’s makes it into a digestible, simple workout. Also his infectious energy and encouragement certainly doesn’t hurt.

Ah nice, I had the DVD’s for several years and used it for a few weeks, but never really committed to it. This time seems to be the one.

Yeah, I very much agree, it’s exercise/workout yoga, which for me makes it a bit easier to get into. Oh my word, as I’m at the beginning of it really, there’s a couple of workouts where I’m absolutely struggling to get through (Below the belt and red hot core) and getting a little annoyed at how difficult he’s making it (only getting annoyed in a nice, funny way).
When he shows on his Facebook page people who have done it and the progress they’ve made and the sports people who have done it and swear by it, it’s quite easy to be convinced to do it

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it’s important to not get annoyed and just accept you can’t do everything right away, you’ll get there with practice! That’s why he often gives easier options of certain moves

Think I tried DDPYoga once and it kicked my ass and I never went back :smiley:

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Libertarianism is a wide ranging thing. In Ameria there’s two main schools - Libertarian conservatism (or ‘non-legit’ in that phrasing)and classical liberalism (or ‘legit’ in the terms used above). There are other stands (right wing libertarianism for example), but they’re not what we’re talking about here.

I think Kane falls more into classical liberalism which is effectively a slightly more extreme version of your Nick Cleggs and David Camerons - that while liberty is a priority, public order comes first - so the state necessarily needs to curb some of your individual rights for the benefit of everyone. In particular, classical liberalism focuses on economic rights - not intervening in business/the markets - and withdrawing state aid - the idea that things like social security create dependency on the state and that people are more likely to pull themselves up if you don’t give them handouts.

Classical liberals tend to be in favour of a government that:

  • protects individual rights and provides services that cannot be provided in a free market.
  • provides common national defence to provide protection against foreign invaders.
  • creates laws that provide protection for citizens from wrongs committed against them by other citizens.
  • Builds and maintains necessary public institutions.
  • implements public works that include a stable currency, standard weights and measures and building and upkeep of roads, railways, communications etc.

On the political spectrum, classical liberals tend right-wing economically, but left-wing socially. (compare/contrast to the current Conservative/Republican parties, which are both right-wing economically and socially).

Libertarian conservatives will tend to agree on economic terms with classical-liberals (although some will argue more strongly for minimising the state’s role or removing it altogether), but they also believe strongly in social Conservatism. This brings in an inherent tension in their beliefs as they will usually believe that the traditional family unit should be defended over other lifestyles, and that those who don’t conform to their ideas of social norms (be they immigrants, LGBTQI+, political opponents etc) should be discriminated against.

They often lean on the US constitution (or in the UK the magna carta) to defend their right to perform harmful acts towards others. A classical liberal would argue that this falls foul of one of the core values of most libertarians: the non-aggression principle.

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Oh yeah, you’re completely right. I find it funny when he keeps pushing and I’m on the floor just in safety zone figuratively dying :slightly_smiling_face:

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feel like we should save this for the actual DDP thread but here’s Stevie Richards taking us through the beginning steps :smiley:

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