Remember the American inbetweeners

or the American IT Crowd

I don’t really get Creed as a character. Ok, creepy oddball older co-worker, but completely unrelatable to any actual human being.

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I don’t

Yeah, Creed is my least favourite character, way OTT

(though I do love the episode where he’s dodging work and gets on the bus that the whole office happen to be on)

Yeah Creed is the worst regular cast.

Don’t know why the US didn’t have a great IT guy. They had that one that everyone was mean to but he was pretty much pointless.

Both are fives.

Office UK is sublime, lightning in a bottle combination of writing and performances, captures the drudgery of office life and the desperation of these characters perfectly, and nails the balance of darkness and sweetness.

Office US is broad, generous, silly, charming. It’s totally different (after sensibly abandoning the original scripts) like it needs to be. Might be the TV series I take to a desert island because there’s lots of it and it’s all enjoyable. Quality definitely drops once Michael leaves but the ensemble is so strong it still works (the real failing is Andy - they can’t decide what to do with him and it never works). But even then you still get amazing moments, James Spader’s whole run as Robert California is one of the great comedic performances of all time.

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There is a specific IT guy who Michael hates (he tries to pretend that the office is closed when he arrives) but I think he’s only in the one episode and he doesn’t have any good lines like the UK one.

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He’s in a few and I mentioned him in my post GODDAMN YOU!

Sorry I misread it and thought you meant Toby.

Creed is one of the places where Office US is at its silliest but I don’t see that as a negative since it’s still really really funny

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Found out the other day that Creed is called Creed in real life and is meant to be playing a fictionalised version of himself

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Toby is far from pointless. He makes my skin crawl.

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Have you seen the theory that Toby is the Scranton Strangler.

Michael’s hatred of Toby is funny I think

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No I haven’t. We are on a rewatch at the moment (season 7) and Toby couldn’t bring himself to go into a church in the one we watched last night… so I agree with the theory.

nah it’s just too nasty