my underling has started today!!!

exciting times for warn inc.

Haha, wasn’t he then relocated to the bogs? Royter Hatpoo!

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offices are good
our boss bought 10 plants for our office today and paid for them himself. doubt many of you have that many plants in your house

just get a garden man
edit: not a garden man

doubt you have that many plants in your garden man

Surely that just requires unions and the like to reorganise around new working structures though? See IPSE for example, though I don’t know how effective they are. Idk, it’s something I’m still trying to navigate myself and I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on it, but if the workplace is innovating the worker sort of has to do the same to protect what’s theirs.

(Also for @Ruffers and @shrewbie I have a bunch of well cared for plants in my house/workspace that would probably die if I worked elsewhere)

Possibly, but I’d have thought they’d still have to go through a change of use/building class planning application in most cases.

It won’t happen because most organisations don’t really trust their staff to work without supervision. which is a shame as there are lots of obvious benefits to having people working from home, both for the organisation and the staff, plus these days it’s far more practical (it’s not as if you would have to forever be couriering paper files to peoples homes).

sounds like you’re smothering your plants, shiggles

But I love them!

Because the advent of the internet has meant industrial organising more efficient and effective, right.

This is definitely true, and is a major problem. I started writing a response about critical mass and ‘traditional’ employers, but abandoned it halfway through because I actually couldn’t argue my way around your point. I think it’s a perspective thing and I’m probably guilty of a bit of I’m Alright Jack, in that it works for me and I haven’t considered the broader implications properly.

i have no desire to work from home, beyond doing it on occasion eg if waiting for a plumber or something.

firstly i don’t want to associate being at home with work as if work is stressful, how do you get away from that?

secondly emailing/messaging people isn’t the same socially as having people around to speak to. i’d get lonely very very quickly. i’ve had a job before that involved being in the office on my own a lot and it was awful - i’ve no reason to believe working from home would be much different. might be alright if you’ve got a really busy social life but i haven’t!

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Not for over three years now:

http://www.tltsolicitors.com/news-and-insights/insight/can-an-office-building-be-converted-into-residential-units-without-planning-permission/

This is news to me. Fair enough, probably what they’re doing then.

Yeah they did the same to us long ago. In reality you tend to find people just end up sitting at the same desks day after day. It’s an annoying system.

The only real issue with this idea of shared workspaces used by loads of different companies is the question of data and intellectual property protection, I guess.

Use encrypted USB sticks. Don’t say anything confidential in public spaces.

That’ll be £300, please.

It’s more about the fact your screen is there for others to see and if you’re taking phone calls someone overhears the other end of the call. Basically this is the sort of stuff that CEOs etc seem to shit their pants about regularly. Right now I have a 5-digit passcode to get to my voicemail. I can’t remember it because none of the digits can include my 4-digit extension but who knows what order those other numbers are in. Fucking stupid stuff.

Get one of those viewing angle reducing thingers. For phone calls, see above re: public spaces.

We’re up to £600 now. PayPal is fine.

You’re misunderstanding (Those screen things are pretty limited anyway) but the point here is that CEOs etc.make these decisions based on raw fear rather than rationality. If a company had a sensible security policy you wouldn’t be asked to change passwords every month or so, nor be asked to add in ‘special characters’ and the like.