How's your career / existential crisis going?


#301

They’ve now gone completely overboard on addressing our workload issue. From this I have learned that the only way to get management to listen is to have an entire team go to your manager’s boss and kick up a huge stink/threaten to walk.

So that’s good.


#302

Could you try and find a desk in a co-working space or something like that?


#303

Yeah that’s a good idea and I’ve had a little bit of a look - sadly rural Wigan area isn’t really a hotbed for that kind of stuff unfortunately. Also I’d need some privacy as well.

Maybe I should set something up.

Also I know that the sub-let office space market is quite big (e.g. firms take out large/long rentals and sub-let smaller spaces they aren’t currently using). Maybe there’s a way of tapping into that via a consultant or someone.


#304

Very much thinking of moving to Glasgow


#305

One of us!
One of us!


#306

I was doing this for two years while living in Australia and back in the UK worked two days from home a week.

Personally, I wouldn’t do it again unless it was a great opportunity, but that very much depends on the company and on you as an individual.

I spent the first three months working from home until I reached the point where something had to give, I missed the human interaction massively and it was making me depressed. I decided to try a co-working space, despite the fact that I was the one paying for it. I’m glad I did, it improved things massively.

I found having a place of work at home was a bit of a drag too. It’s always there. You don’t get to leave your work environment. It can make drawing boundaries harder and is something you have to force yourself to consider or you’ll end up doing too much / too little / never stop / never start.

It’s important the company are set up well for remote working. Are you the only one who’ll be remote? If so there’s a good chance you’ll be forgotten about, not intentionally but you will miss important info. If everyone else is in the office, it will be very tough as people talk about things which don’t always get passed along. It can also cause people to resent you as you’re the one asking for everything to essentially be documented, even in cases where it might not make sense normally to document it.

For my job in Australia, I said I’d need to visit the office every three months, if not for a specific reason, then just to catch up with everyone, get my face there. That helped a lot. Helped me become a person in their eyes, and not just a resource. Also make sure they have decent microphones and webcam(s). Video conference where possible, it is far more personal than a call and people are less dickish when they see a face that goes with the voice too. Expect to be the one who makes sure this happens in advance of any meetings even though you’re the one who is remote.

I ended up getting laid off in the end, right at the time I was supposed to transfer the job to Europe. The company went through some massive problems, so it wasn’t a huge surprise, but I know my working remotely contributed to that.

That’s most of the negatives out of the way, the positives:
Stress levels were right down.
Being in a co-working space meant I met a lot of people from all sorts of walks of life I’d never normally interact with including a lot of startups. Got some side-work through this.
The zero commute, as you mentioned.
The fact that people don’t bug you with questions as much, so you can concentrate on what you’re doing a lot easier.
If I loved the work I was doing, and if it’s a field you already know like the back of your hand, I think it would have been a great way of working, perhaps even better than being in an office.

If you want to chat more about it then PM me, happy to help.


#307

This is a very helpful post.


#308

This is unbelievably helpful - thanks so much for taking the time to do this. I’ve got the standard Monday rush about to start but I will take the time to read it much more closely and put a reply together. Thank you!


#309

I don’t have the experience to answer your question.

But I remember reading about how René Magritte dealt with it. His studio was in or attached to his house. He would get dressed in a suit and tie each morning, kiss his wife goodbye and walk around the block, only to reenter his house and his studio. Guess it bookended the workday in a way that separated it from his private life.

So, yeah, boundaries are important


#310

Trying to organise an interview for a stay at home job but the recruitment person is in another time zone and I have other interviews.


#311

I need to get out


#312

i’m sorry but what kind of maniac


#313

don’t know what you’re talking about


#314

My job search is proving so fruitless to the extent that I am going to meet a recruiter next week. What sort of things should I know/ be wary of?


#315

good recruiters use your specialties to place you in interviews that will impress their clients.

bad ones will use you as fodder to be the ‘other option’ when they’ve already found the former. if it smells like the job aint suited to your skills, that’s what’s happening


#316

as for me:

job I REALLY want: round 2 this week
job I want but not as much as the other one: round 2 next week

cruddd


#317

out right lying, altering your CV, setting salary expectations, sending you for interviews with firms who don’t have a role for you. Some have a lack of knowledge about firms and the industry.

I’d be really careful about using a recruiter and if you have someone from within the industry that you can confide in, then it’s a good idea to speak to them to find out if they have someone they have a good relationship with. There are good recruiters out there but there are a lot of very very bad ones.

Also don’t forget that recruiters cost firms a lot in fees, and so see if any target firms that you have in mind have an internal recruiter, or send some generic CVs with a covering letter. They’d rather get to you directly than via a recruiter, and it shows initiative.


#318

Thanks. I am naturally a bit wary of using them, but this one seems fairly specialised and quite small. Am just getting a bit sick of rejection after rejection though, so will see what they have to offer.


#319

it’s a good sign when they’re talking about businesses they have long standing relationships with (as long as they’re not lying). Both recruiters i am currently using were of that ilk.

it’s also worth noting that they’ll only really be into helping you if they think you match a current need. if they submit your cv to that role and it gets batted back, you’ll never hear from them other than bulk email marketing. unless they’re really, really legit


#320

that’s great - I’d definitely recommend finding a recommendation if possible, but appreciate you’re in a tough spot.

My view is that using a recruiter isn’t risk free - from wasting your time and sending you to pointless interviews, to damaging your reputation. So be switched on and make sure they’re working on your behalf, and not solely for their clients.