Yes, yes I would.

(relevant humblebrag coming up soz) I’m in my mid-20s and doing pretty well in a career I like, I’m self-employed and work from home which I’m happy about as anxiety means I often don’t come off well in real life and it takes me 15 minutes to write a one-line email. At the moment I’m working at a big client’s office and for a while it was my dream to actually get a job here but a few days into my contract I was wondering what life was like for the people who have been working here for 10 or 20 years. They must be getting paid really nicely but I can’t imagine going and sitting in the same cubicle day in day out for that long, looking at the same view. I guess you must just have to fill the rest of the time with stuff you really love and make an effort to do it, which must be hard if you come home knackered every night and especially if there’s kids involved.

I used to work in a kitchen which I loved and hated in equal measures. Worked with great people front and back of house and even the managers were sound, but it was shit giving up every single Saturday night to clean out drains and get shouted at by waiters who screwed up their order and wanted me to sort it out so they could get their tip. One of the things that keeps me going when I’m having a shit day at work is remembering that I can do whatever I want on a Saturday cos I don’t have to clean deep fryers at 2am anymore. Even so, sometimes I wish I’d put off the career stuff for a few years and just worked in kitchens, pubs, cafes whatever, because in most cases you can only really do that when you’re in your 20s and you’ll never get the chance again to do something where you can just go home and not think about work until the next day, and where if you call in sick or go on holiday some other grunt can do the work and there’s nothing for you to pick up when you get back.

Yeah

I didn’t mean it in a ā€˜we’re all just meat being shoveled into the grave’ way which I think is how moker interpreted it. I’m talking about on a much more basic level.

Been thinking about it and it’s basically just social anxiety. I have an almost-phobia of work because work environments are conducive to bringing out the worst of it so I try to avoid it as much as I can get away with. I basically fear people anyway but at work everyone’s stressed and horrible.

Where have you worked previously? What’s your job been?

Mostly factory/warehouse production operative stuff

Last one was in a shoe factory cos I’m a proper lad with a proper receding haircut

Not all jobs are like factorys etc

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It would take the edge off but it wouldn’t cause me to feel happy. I’m not particularly money-oriented. I’m too much of an arty-farty sort of person (as sad as that sounds).

I’d rather be paid fuck all doing something that makes me happy than be paid loads doing something I hate (although both scenarios are crap, unfortunately they also seem to be the only scenarios that exist).

My mate does this. He’s a teacher (of English as a foreign language) and spent the Summer travelling around the world (China, Korea, Spain) taking various teaching jobs. Saw him on Saturday for the first time since he got back and he said he’s built up enough cash to pay his mortgage and live off personally until the new year, then he’ll pick up more work. He doesn’t have a wife/kids or anything so he has that flexibility and nobody depending on him. I do kind of envy that to be honest. He’s never really invested in any real career but he’s easily the most well-travelled person I know having worked doing TEFL stuff abroad for over a decade.

I kind of tried to follow a career path that might allow similar sort of stuff and not really be too arsed about having money, but it hasn’t really panned out tbh so feel drawn back into the world of trying to find something sensible that might mean I can afford stuff!

is that sustainable tho? like for the future? pensions and all boring stuff liek that?

Oh God no, absolutely not. I’m acutely aware of that. That’s the thing really. If we lived somewhere like Sweden where pretty much most things you need with regards to care/pensions are state funded, I’d probably relax a lot more but it ain’t so here and definitely won’t be when we get there. Trying to either find something where you can earn OK, or something enjoyable that you can happily keep doing as you get a bit older to sustain yourself is the thing really.

And @Songs_about_ducking he’s quite well qualified and does University teaching now, as opposed to just heading overseas and teaching English in a school (which is how he started about 15 years ago). He’s just fairly comfortable not having a permanent job and taking whatever work comes up. Not having a family or anything helps as well.

wasn’t factoring in sleep when I came up with the 60/40% figure, if I had then I would have said we only spend 20% of our time at work

You get happier for a while and then the happiness ebbs.

My old boss left here to take a Ā£20G cut to work somewhere where he could code and not have to manage people, that is to say that he took a big pay cut to do something he would be happier doing. It was only 4 months ago or so but I’ve heard he’s looking ten years younger and is much much happier.

At this current moment in time probably, but that has more to do with the current organization of my finances rather than the fact that I don’t earn enough.