No, normally I would but if you read that interview he seems completely humourless throughout.

I did read that interview, and I think he’s still joking.

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Weak

the very next line is ‘more seriously…’

Maybe he was joking then. Anyway, there’s a lot more daft things in that interview than that.

Writing an album in two weeks and finishing the lyrics off in the studio? This album is gonna be very good

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Might even be the best rock album ever

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Is he saying he wants the conservative government to legislate to make punk music more diverse or am I misreading this?

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Really enjoyed all 3 streams and agree, War was the standout new track for me. Think Helter Skelter was the best of the 3 covers over the sessions too.

It’s also Nadine Shah’s fault for being too expensive I think

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Nadin€ $hah

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I guess as the only woman in music she can command a pretty high price tag

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i was curious to see what Warren Ellis would bring to the album, but it seems not much.

This roll-call includes The Bad Seeds’ Warren Ellis, who delivers a single but perfectly timed “ Hey !” on ‘Grounds’

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They probably only wrote that lyric in the booth!

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Yep and the word before the quote is “deadpans”. People will read what they want to read though eh. I really like them and even from that position it’s easy to be cynical about them, but I thought they came across well here.

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Interesting response. Wonder if this is something Nadine has twisted/made up like the mercury thing

Yeah, this baffled me. It’s one of those sentences that looks like they’re addressing something if you skim it but is absolute nonsense, surely?

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Well they seem to confirm that they did go in with a low offer (intersting that she said ‘few hundred’ and they said ‘more than a couple hundred’) so cant see how it is made up?

Aye I’ve read it a couple of times and I’m not really sure what he’s getting at. Upthread I said that Idles have become a bit performative and these are the sort of comments that I’m thinking of.

I do agree that for this change to occur, societal norms need to be addressed. Except, he doesn’t dig down into what he means by that, nor does he further this point about people needing to reappraise those norms/unlearn negative stereotypical behaviour. Instead he points to the government and says the onus should be on them to change things, which is shockingly naïve from a band invested in these issues.

But, what does he mean “government legislation”? Does he want the UK to have something akin to the Canada Music Fund? Or more dedicated funding specifically for female musicians like Women Make Music? Or is he saying that bigger-picture we need to address the intersectional reasons a woman will be less likely to be involved with music and touring, that exist outside of the music industry e.g. childcare? It’s a total brain-fart of a comment - an attempt to be knowledgeable about an issue by only mentioning something at its most surface level, then for whatever reason, diverting away instead of expanding on his point. (At least, that’s how it’s depicted in the interview which may not be accurate to how the conversation actually went)

I don’t doubt that Idles want to reduce the gender disparity in music, but, it often reads like they don’t realise they have power to push for this change themselves. They could encourage representation and education, but they don’t seem to understand the politics in play and/or the feminist theory outlining why these problems exist in our society.

It’s frustrating because generally I agree with him. Things should be better! But it just doesn’t make much sense, especially when you do what I’ve done and spend way too long pouring over a few minor points from an NME interview.

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