If at first you don't suck seed

try try again


Let me be first to…erm…you know.

Will any thread super seed this one today?

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That’s it!

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What’s a precautionist’s favourite herb?

A stitching thyme.


The proverb has been traced back to ‘Teacher’s Manual’ by American educator Thomas H. Palmer and ‘The Children of the New Forest’ by English novelist Frederick Maryat (1792-1848). Originally a maxim used to encourage American schoolchildren to do their homework. Palmer (1782-1861) wrote in his ‘Teacher’s Manual’: ‘Tis a lesson you should heed, try, try again. If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.’ The saying was popularized by Edward Hickson (1803-70) in his ‘Moral Song’ and is now applicable to any kind of activity."

Doesn’t sound like a very moral song Edward!

Here it is in full, young ma0sm.

‘Tis a lesson you should heed–
Try again;
If at first you don’t succeed,
Try again.
Then your courage should appear;
For if you will persevere,
You will conquer, never fear,
Try again.

Once or twice though you should fail,
If you would at last prevail,
Try again.
If we strive, ’tis no disgrace
Though we did not win the race–
What should you do in that case?
Try again.

If you find your task is hard.
Try again;
Time will bring you your reward,
Try again;
All that other folk can do,
Why with patience should not you?
Only keep this rule in view,
Try again.

Prefer Aaliyah’s version

This thread is seedious business

Were it not Robert The Bruce, with his spider?

try try a grain.

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Terrible, terrible thread. Goodnight.



It’s ma0sm’s thread, I’ll defer to him.

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What comes after seedious in the dictionary?


Feel so bad for him :cry: