Is DiS still going?

Recently someone said to me “it’s a shame DiS isn’t still going…”

You can probably imagine how that feels to hear, given that I still put 15-20 hours into Drowned in Sound’s newsletter + podcast + YouTube channel every week, alongside managing artists and doing consultancy work.

To try to understand this disconnect and improve what DiS is offering editorially, I’ve set up a quick survey which will only take 3 mins to fill in.

Would really appreciate your time and iff you include your email, I’ll send some of you some books and records as a thank you for your time but otherwise it’s totally anonymous.

It would be good if there was some way to get the new newsletter and podcast to the top of Google because at the minute this is the top result when you search “drowned in sound”

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It’s been mentioned before during similar discussions, but when I visit w w w dot drownedinsound dot com, the first thing I see is

  • A banner which says the site has been archived and closed.
  • A news story talking about last year.
  • Reviews from 2019.
  • A tiny banner asking people to “save our site”.

Is it any surprise that people are confused?

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You might also want to adapt that survey so that the questions

  • How would you rate the DiS newsletter?
    and
  • How would you rate the DiS podcast?

have options to say “I don’t know”, espcially since your survey lists “I have never Read the newsletter” and “I have never Listened to the podcast” as valid options in later questions.

The “I have never” question should be multiple select too.

“When do you usually read a newsletter?” should also have an answer option of “I don’t” too.

You also say

but there’s nowhere to share your email.

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Perhaps drownedinsound.com could be a Linktree with links to the newsletter, podcast, forum etc. They seem pretty easy to set up?

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Thanks, this is frustrating me no end and has been for over a year. Need to find someone who can get into the Ruby on Rails old site and make some changes

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the trouble is, the easy version of this would nuke the old site, but a holding page in place of the index is a plan

pop it in any of the text box responses where you can type whatever you like (I might edit the copy to reflect this, thanks for flagging)

No surprise at all. I’ve been trying to fix that for a while. the site is now at w w w dot drownedinsound dot org but that doesn’t yet have the old site archive imported which isn’t easy as we don’t have a typical CMS

They’re optional questions, you don’t need to answer if you don’t know

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Had no idea.

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It’s quite new. And I need to put a lot more effort into it. Going to be doing DiS playlists on there going forward.

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Kinda feel like the following questions would be interesting for you:

  • is there a demand per se for what you’re offering?
  • if so, are you reaching the right people?
  • if not, what (if anything) do regular DiS forum users actually want?

As an observation: for someone who spends 15-20 hours working on DiS, you spend almost no time with us, unless you’re after something or want us to engage with your stuff. I’m not saying we’d necessarily read a podcast if you did, but it does feel like your stuff and the DiS forums have been entirely different entities for years.

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It’s been mentioned before, but something needs to be done about the boards’ googleability if DiS wants more visibility. These boards practically exist on the dark web until that’s fixed, and could bring more attention to everything else you’re doing, to a wider audience, if they weren’t completely obscured from the wider public. It might also bring in more donations etc.

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I spend a lot of time reading and listening to recommendations from the forums but found that when I have been more active in conversations the vibe changes and there’s often quite a lot of bad faith thrown my way or grievances from 10-15 years ago resurfaced and my mental health can’t deal with it.

I think there’s sometimes an idea that as the sort of landlord, that people would rather get on with their conversations. It’s an odd dynamic and a difficult bridge to cross, despite trying quite a few times to find a balance.

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In which case, maybe just chip in with your thoughts on them, or recommendations, like any other board member?

Personally I don’t see that you need to feel like that, particularly now the forums are run semi independently. I’m sorry about the MH stuff but maybe there might be ways to engage that put you in a less vulnerable position?

This really resonated

" To me, making space to escape our toxic timelines and illuminating pathways to help us make sense of the world, work together to build communities and to figure out how to resist seems more urgent than ever."

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Personally, I think maybe more forum user stuff could be featured to link the community more to what you’re doing. There are people on here doing such cool stuff, and who have such insightful things to say.

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I’d love to do that but it has been made clear by many users that I should seek consent before linking to or highlighting anything from the forums elsewhere. Whilst I totally understand this, it adds a lot of extra work into compiling things.

I do highlight the monthly album polls and things like Neptune prize. And have given props to users when their recommendations led to my discovery.

Thanks, I’ll give this some thought.

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