It’s hard to find the words on genocide though. What can a guy going by the name colossalhorse say on a music forum about the killing of hundreds of children every day that means anything? Best to just stare into the abyss for a minute and leave it at that.

Swearing about trains feels more appropriate really.

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I don’t really know how to engage in stuff about Yemen without getting sucked into a hole of helplessness :frowning:

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Big Saj

Edit, sorry @kiyonemakibi

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oh sure, but i think it is helpful to know what we are doing. i know i tend to go on a bit about these things, but those figures are still concrete and verifiable in a way that, say, the austerity deaths are not (because uk citizens are more real to us, i guess, so of course there is more pressure to manipulate those stats and cast doubts on their authenticity we’d never do that to uk citizens). but imo if we’re trying to build a moral case against the tory regime then starting with yemen is a way to maximise the visceral impact. it sums up so much of what is wrong with our sick society. the deaths, the complete irrelevance to ordinary peoples’ lives that is “countering iranian influence”, and of course pursuing a deliberate policy of cooperation with al qaeda to fight the houthis. and i have no idea why the opposition don’t mention more often that phil may is a shareholder in capital group (they part own BAE). so each time one of our bombs hits a yemeni schoolbus or blows up a wedding, our prime minister and her husband profit directly from that. such fertile ground for really stoking the fires of unrest imo. i don’t want to believe people in this country are so heartless that they wouldn’t care about this stuff if they knew.

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It’s absolutely worth talking about and I think your posts are really useful reminders that such atrocities continue to happen and that we’re complicit in them (especially as it gets so little coverage in the press). I was just pointing out that as I have no additional knowledge to add I didn’t comment and clicking like on the post feels all kinds of wrong, so though it looks like no-one is engaging that doesn’t mean it’s not being read and despaired over. We need an, “oh fuck” button or something.

What worries me in this current climate is how many people actually wouldn’t care about it if they did know. The victims are all a bit foreign and far away, y’know? We’ve got a Brexit to botch, no time to be worrying about distant people dying just because we’re actively facilitating it.

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sorry if that was ranty, it wasn’t meant to be a “you should be ashamed sir” kind of post. but yeah, part of me really doesn’t want to know the answer to this^ :persevere:

Actually I’ve been thinking about this all morning now and have an idea for fundraising. Might do a thread to get some more insight from people who know more about charity and raising money. Would still be good to know if we could do anything to stand up to the government selling weapons to Saudi Arabia but yeah.

Thank you @ghosthalo for making me think more about it (and tbh for posting about it generally because I probably wouldn’t know anything about it otherwise)

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Brilliant

(Genuinely might leave the country for a month after May steps down)

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Jesus, if ever there was an argument against Dry January. The state of things just makes me want to lose my mind.

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Careful… You might not get back in!

Oh. How… awful.

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I did think this :slight_smile:

Haha. It’s going to be so, SO bad. Deportation would be bliss in comparison*.

(*Not making light of deportation/Windrush etc. here don’t worry)

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Are they trying to mop up the last of the UKIP voters or something?

It’s only gammony shits who will be remotely impressed by awful stunts like this. Oooooh, rolling out the navy like it’s 1588 or something.

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Perhaps. Looks more like posturing for the next Tory leadership contest to me. This whole thing is, what with The Saj bailing on a family holiday to rush back to the UK because a relatively small number of migrants came over.

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how big a step is it really from intercepting, to firing warning shots, to just straight opening up on migrant boats as they cross the channel. if they can get people to accept the first, the rest follows pretty easily imo.

Protect our nation? 12 migrants on a boat isn’t an invasion, you twerp.

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Oh I hate this world.

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I’m sorry to say that I don’t really think that they do, or at least they feel so distant from it to be absolved of all responsibility.

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This guy’s twitter hashtags:

:airplane::racing_car::red_car: OEM Petrolhead #avgeek #ToryToff #businessowner 24 #Kent #policesupporter #RoadSafety Armed Forces supporter.

Most of these things are bad things.

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