#81

They do have ‘we were in government during the Olympic opening ceremony’ though. For a decent number of well-connected people (political journalists, Tories with a sense of guilt), that’s enough.

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#82

Still never seen it so its use a symbol of GREAT Britain all the time remains quite baffling to me

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#83

Run me over with a bus please.

A NEW BUS FOR LONDON if has to be

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#84

Nor me. Never been remotely arsed. Which is even more weird because I’m actually one of those centre-left pro-EU types.

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#85
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#86

there is an intensely ridiculous back and forth in that sunny hundal thread that i’ve seen repeatedly elsewhere. it goes roughly like this:

“functionally, the lib dems have the same position on brexit as labour”
“that’s not true, they are explicitly for remain”
“yes but they have promised a 2nd referendum”
“yes but the lib dems are explicitly pro-remain”
“yes but they say they will respect the result while seeking a 2nd ref to overturn the result democratically, so what happens if they lose the 2nd ref?”
“labour’s racism is causing a surge in support for the lib dems”
“but how will they overturn the referendum result if they lose a 2nd referendum and it results in the hardest of all brexits?”
“they will campaign for remain in a 2nd referendum”
“okay but they have also said they won’t go into coalition with labour so who will they partner with in the event of another hung parliament? and what will brexit look like then?”
“they won’t go with corbyn’s labour. if people want a labour government they know the price they have to pay.”
“but people are voting labour because of corbyn.”
“labour stalinists called me a melt and made fun of my lib dem membership”

this is so tiring now. so very, very, very fucking tiring :man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming:

#87

Fucking hell. Who even asks themselves, when presented with the fact “A man fell out a plane into a London garden”, the question “I wonder what the profession and educational background of anyone who happened to be near the scene is”.

The press in this country is poison, was so outraged this week by the Mail’s “anonymous man at Glastonbury wearing pro-Brexit shirt” shit, where the man turned out to be the Mail reporter writing the piece. I mean, it’s pure Pravda, it’s beyond that, burn it all down, literally.

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#88

At the bottom of it is a kind of purity politics: The Lib Dems really want Remain, it runs through their veins, whereas we all know duplicitous old Jez wants to leave the EU really. That their actual policies are virtually the same is neither here nor there.

It has been formative to watch the sensible pragmatics to become fervent ideologues over Brexit without a hint of self reflection.

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#89

Oh wow, link?

#90

Stay classy DM

#91

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#92

Nah they always called her Marie Le Cunt behind her back on secret twitter

although for once their bullying was justified

#93

I’ve never seen any of the bullying - not to say that it didn’t/doesn’t exist.

There was a brief period where she’d get retweeted into my timeline by people I respect, for saying something insightful.

#94

Brexit Party should’ve gone full Man City (no, not come dressed as empty seats) and booed the anthem.

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#95

I thought you meant doing The Poznan, for a moment there.

#96

They look like they’re on a stag/hen weekend and accidentally ended up on a tour of the European Parliament.

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#97

Think that makes the lib dems arsenal fan tv

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#98

Q: What can the UK actually do?

Hunt says Hong Kong is part of China. But its freedoms re guaranteed by the legally binding agreement between China and the UK. If those freedoms are not honoured, there will be “serious consequences”.

Q: What will they be?

Hunt says he does not want to say. He needs some flexibility.

That’s it, yes - IT’S WAR!

#100

Keep struggling to put this into words but going to have a crack;

There remains zero chance of no deal. However, I agree we need to pretend there is as a negotiating chip. However, we have ended up in a weird place where nobody relevant wants or will allow no deal, but simply cant say that as it fucks the negotiation. But they are still basically saying it constantly anyway which makes a mockery of using it as a negotiating chip. Everyone knows it isn’t going to happen, but the press keep asking and asking Hunt and Johnson, and their only answer can be “I don’t want it but will do it…with a heavy heart…with a miniscule chance…BLAH BLAH BLAH”.

So our negotiating chip for a better deal is something they basically admit isn’t going to happen.

Brilliant.

#101

It also only works if you don’t tell everyone your genius, primary school-level, tactic.