Kanye West Thread (Rolling) - It's An Absolute Binfire And Has Been For Some Time.

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Beans On Toast for Night 2
Colonel Dijon and the Mustard 5 for Night 3

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Enjoy The Cuban Brothers at Wireless Festival

there will be multiple reasons for this. a headliner who can sell out 3 days in a row at 50k a day is not that simple to come by, and after Drake did it last year many people were moaning about how poor the lineups were under the headliner as, again, they’re stretching it out over 3 days for maximum profit. same as the sponsors leaving - Live Nation could comfortably foot the bill for the weekend but the whole point of putting these events on is purely for profit. booking kanye was a calculated risk with a big payoff which has, thankfully, failed to come in.

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Do you mean for this year? Or reputationally this is it for Wireless? Be interested to see what happens.

I reckon Melvin Benn is paid to go, and they just carry on as normal next year. Although I have no idea what the financial impact is of them skipping a year.

i’d much rather he wasn’t banned and instead just wasn’t given a platform by anyone. But as the mega rich have no soul and don’t give a shit about literally anyone outside their own immediate sphere then here we are. the son of a tool maker has to step up.

the wireless owner seemed like such a priviliged smug prick. clearly saw his own reading of the situation as the only right one (he said naughty stuff but apologised so c’mon everyone boogie)

probably all the pre-sales went into a massive interest type account (or whatever is used by the money bros) and they made a shit ton before they pay it all back. probably all planned in advance to give everyone a payday in someway. Think it had sold out before general sale.

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TBH given no Kanye meant no festival I imagine Benn’s statement was a heavily workshopped hail mary that had no basis in any personal beliefs beyond, “make the money machine work”.

There could even be some clause around insurance whereby it’ll only kick in if an external force cancels an artist vs them doing it, in which case even less interest in them making a moral choice.

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no chance Festival Republic will give him the boot and no chance Wireless can carry on without Festival Republic’s money

My post agreed 100% with his exclusion from entry, it just also said that a number of others ought to be refused entry and it’s notable who does get banned and who doesn’t.

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wasn’t that about 8 prime ministers ago?

no festival today

Cameron, the wheat runner was Home Secretary still only about 11 years ago

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This guy is like the godfather of the UK festival world so no chance he carries the can. His arrogance is astounding in thinking he’d get away with this booking, and I thought he said the quiet part out loud in the Radio 4 interview when he admitted they’d run the booking past the corporate sponsors but not anybody who might speak for the Jewish community when they were arranging it. You could tell from the tone of his voice that he was more irked at Pepsi for bottling it, no pun intended, than anything else.

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Hello.

Happy to accept I am wrong the visa stuff. I work in an area of public policy that is incredibly open to JR and court challenges and made assumptions. I was wrong.

On other stuff:

To be absolutely clear, I consider this version of the cancellation to be the worst possible outcome.

I post on here a lot and make my views quite forthright so I assumed it would go without saying that I would consider the event happening to be the actual worst outcome. My bad.

Completely disagree with this. Wireless is a Live Nation event. They could’ve found an alternative headliner if they wished. They have chosen to nuke their own event to make a point. I actually find it hard not see this as another facet of them cosying up to the Trump administration to avoid antitrust issues and a potential breakup.

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Rather than sacking it off, the organisers should have got Paul Draper to headline, I’m pretty certain he’s free.

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Paul Draper plays The Hits of Kanye West

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Given there’s no Glastonbury this year, it would be a lot easier than most years but that would have required them announcing this in November/December like most festivals, rather than a few months before the event, in order to find a back up… or have a line up that’s so strong it isn’t as reliant on the headliner.

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Given how fractured the hip hop/rnb scene is, and how few of the biggest names are touring, it wouldnt surprise me if finding not one but three headliners at this stage, for a festival in the peak of the summer, was genuinely insurmountable.

Also wouldn’t surprise me if the rest of the programme was going to be whoever they could cobble together once it cleared the court of public opinion and had already sold out, so there also isn’t anything to fall back on.

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Would Kanye headlining three nights of Wireless pay him more, less or the same, as the figure they’d pay for Kanye headlining one night of Wireless multiplied by three, do you think?

I.e. would there more likely be a discount for a festival promoter for bulk booking, a premium added by the artist for having the whole festival on their name, or no difference?

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