No. I provided you with a counterexample. One counterexample is all that’s needed to disprove an assertion absolutely. It’s no use just coming up with more esoteric special cases where what you want to happen happens.

I’d politely suggest you change your methodology to: richer person gives the poorer person half the difference between their respective totals. Each time one of these transactions takes place the overall wealth variance in the overall population decreases, guaranteeing that inequality decreases with it.

Mate, calm down it was only a throwaway post

If we end up with Burgeon then I’m jacking in politics for the rest of my life.

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I’m perfectly calm Bam, just engaging with you.

sorry if my maths is wrong anyway, seems like you’ve put in the thought so I’ll defer to you.

Might be worth thinking about how the tone of your posts comes across sometimes, I would interpret stuff like blunt sentences and italicising as frustration or talking down to people personally.

Have a good day anyway :slight_smile:

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Starmer and Burgeon out of that field is… yeah well there’s a reason I’m emigrating isn’t there.

Is Dumbo really leading the deputy race then?

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It’s hard to say but I don’t think there’s any evidence to suggest he is except nightmares. He has 76 constituency nominations compared to Rayners 365.

The interesting thing to me is that people are actively rooting for RLB but against Burgon when the votes clearly overlap. If RLB is going to win Burgon has to do well, which, well, I don’t even know what to say to that.

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Burgon is one of the places where I break from the left consensus because I think solidarity has blinded it to a candidate’s actual attributes. He has ideas at least as silly as Phillips’ and is an awful blurter and talker, he isn’t leadership material at all.

Really don’t think that’s the case, particularly given how close she is to Rayner.

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Can’t imagine people voting for Burgon, the man’s thick as custard.

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Of the 172 constituencies nominating RLB 64 nominated Burgon and 63 nominated Rayner (31 for Buttler, 5 for Allin Khan). As we’ve said before there’s only so much you can learn from constituency nominations but it’s clear that his base and RLB’s base undeniably overlap. If you could extract RLB from Burgon, Mcklusky and Murphy she’d be a much more attractive candidate but it’s just not possible given that those alliances got her where she is. Hopefully if she wins she can build something broader.

If you want to convince me of a right wing conspiracy that’s the best example I’ve seen. Nothing more effective at threatening soft-left/dem soc alliance than stirring the dem soc base against Rayner by painting her as anti-Corbyn.

this is near impossible. in 2015 422,000 people voted for leader and 408,000 for deputy. near 100% crossover. people who vote do so in both leader and deputy races.
everyone who votes burgon is putting long bailey first preference, she’s also picking up votes from people from people who vote for other deputy candidates.
if burgon wins, long bailey wins.

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got my ballot :partying_face:

Yeah I voted RLB, don’t think it’ll be the result though.

not got my ballot yet but me dad went:
1 Starmer
2 RLB

1 Butler
2 Rayner

think I’ll go the same but RLB above Starmer obvs

How hard is it to spell “Kermit” FFS.

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Starmer winning on all ages and sexes too.

RLB has a 56-point lead over Starmer of those that also are members of Momentum

Voted yesterday. RLB and Dawn Butler. Didn’t put any second preferences, I can’t remember why but I’m sure I had good reason to do so.