#3561

omg where is my radio show where I can share my trenchant insights about things that are massively obvious

edit: not going off at you marcks, just that this trajectory was so blatant and is the endgame of careerists like Chuk UK

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#3562

Aren’t things like the food banks, hyper-local charities etc exactly what parsefone means about direct engagement?

They’re the tools most advocated by the left and the likes of Momentum.

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#3563
#3564

You think I’m disagreeing with you when I agree 100%. Community and grass-roots based activism is exactly how we can involve people in the socialist movement more directly. The left is being pushed out of electoralism, it must find and fill the gaping amount of space outside of it.

#3565

Yeah Edelman and him seem a perfect fit, shame he’ll be off to start his own company in two months, then join a competitor straight after lol

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#3566

and @marckee

Yes, it isn’t clear to me.

In your original post, you talked about connecting people with Labour. I took that to mean ‘we have the policies and principles, now we just need to find the voters’.

Did I get that wrong?

#3567

I was talking more broadly about how you’d approach people with socialist proposals. I don’t think Labour under its current management is particularly interested in that, or if it is it’s not taking suggestions from the likes of us. I think if we are going to have any effect on the party at this point, it will be through having a powerful enough outside social movement that it can’t ignore our demands.

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#3568

Then I wish you all the best. The merits and demerits of today’s leadership isn’t something I am interested in

#3569

surely the turn the dial thing is mostly aimed at the centrists/sensibles

nationalise natural monopolies, build social housing, raise tax on the richest

that’s what people on the left have been saying for years, and those ideas have always polled well when they don’t have the label of a political party

there’s no dial turning required - that’s when you have a flimsy proposal that’s been tuned to specific demographics

#3570

I came across some of this stuff for a while in a previous job.

A major music label has a segment for obsessive fans (and frequent buyers) of indie music called “All Tomorrow’s Playlisters” which I really hoped was a reference to the life work of Mr Barry Hogan.

#3571

Probably more likely a reference to the VU song that Hogan was referencing, no?

#3572

Yes, probably, but I hoped it was otherwise

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#3573

can this be real

#3574

labour playing piano?

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#3575

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I mean… if ever there was a budget focused on jobs, jobs, jobs, then it was this one. The only thing missing would be sector specific furlough extensions for businesses and contractors if still unable to reopen/work beyond September (e.g. performing arts)

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#3576

Who the fuck wrote that
That’s sub-tweet level

#3577

please can we bin this thread, bin the other politics June thread and have an all purpose July politics thread?

#3578

This thread is needed to document what Keir Starmer is up to

#3579

Up to the boards.

  • Back to a single monthly UK politics thread
  • Keep a separate Labour Party one even though the leadership election’s over

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#3580

Maybe don’t lock this one though, would be good to keep open for discussions on party membership etc