Learning to love hip hop

Wyclef’s album the Carnival is lots of fun. Has one of my favorite rap tracks on it that shouts out the old school. Lauren’s verse on it is :fire:


was gonna recommend this one since hes a fan of miseducation. carnival is a personal classic for me. a total mix of styles.


really enjoy that you’ve crossed off albums by black eyed peas and ksi before stuff like 36 chambers or low end theory :smiley:

loads of classics on your want list so that’ll be fun to work through, I’d add resurrection by common and no need for alarm by del since you like them already


pretty interesting group of stuff you have here. def missing a bunch of classics! you need to venture south and west a bit too, lets see here… some southern stuff to bounce you around a bit

  1. ugk - super tight (or any of their first 3 albums)
  2. outkast - aquemini (or any of their first 5 albums, bonus listen goodie mob - soul food)
  3. scarface - the diary (or any of his first 7 albums)
  4. devin the dude - just tryin ta live
  5. t.i. - trap muzik (or any of his first 4 albums)
  6. lil wayne - tha carter 1 or 2 (or my personal fav wayne album like father, like son)
  7. jeezy - thug motivation 101 (or any of his first 3 albums)
  8. 3 6 mafia - most known unknown
  9. young buck - buck the world
  10. future - pluto (or his classic run of mixtapes monster/beast mode/56 Nights)

i can guarantee you the more rap you listen to the further down vinnie paz will drop on your list.


venture out west a bit with…

  1. snoop - doggystyle (lump in dr dre - the chronic here)
  2. 2pac - me against the world (or all eyez on me)
  3. comptons most wanted - music to driveby
  4. dj quik - rhythmalism (has been my all time favorite album since 98, nasty raps and all)
  5. ice cube - death certficate (or any of his first 3.5 albums)
  6. spice 1 - 187 he wrote (or any of his first 4 albums)
  7. e-40 - refer to this thread
  8. mac dre - young black brotha for the mob stuff and genie of the lamp for hyphy stuff)
  9. the coup - kill my landlord (or any of their first 3 albums)
  10. the jacka - jack artist

also read through these three threads if you have a couple months to spare:


Hey guys! Thanks a lot for your suggestions, i’ll definitely check them out. Especially the wyclef jean one.

Yeah haha, I opted to check out stuff that is less “Acclaimed” too, just so i can compare the differences of what makes good and bad music (even though i didn’t hate the black eyed peas record and the KSi one was pretty okay). But both 36 chambers and low end theory are records that are very up there in my to listen list, i believe i will hear them this week still. haha

Perfect! I was looking for some stuff that I didn’t know and this list has plenty of it, i only know outkast, ti, lil wayne and future from there (maybe jeezy, isn’t he featured in that rihanna song?). I’m glad i’m seeing some unknown names, i will add them in my to listen list for sure, thanks! :smiley:

I see what you mean, I do like a lot his delivery style, but i agree that at points his lyrics are of a very questionable nature, especially when it comes to the homophobic stuff (that is the main reason why he isn’t in the top 5 in my list). But in general what i like the most about JMT is the beats so i feel less "raunchy’ listening to them. Hopefully vinnie will leave the top 10 soon, but i doubt On the eve of war will leave the top 10, i love that song so much xD

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Every Danny Brown album

yah admittedly i still like a few of tracks off of violent by design and some others scattered through their discography.

the shear audacity and cinematic scope of some of stoupes beats is something to be admired on occasion

lmao now youve got me listening to jmt, immortal technique and necro.

this stuff… has not aged well

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DUDE YES. And So It Burns is one of the wildest examples of stoupe’s beats man. One of the best songs of the record because of that. Saviorself and Before the Great Collapse are also great beats from this record.

Geez, one of the biggest problems of being a non-native english speaker is that i can’t totally understand the lyrics of a song unless i read them. So when I listen to hip hop i usually lose part of the experience, so i can’t totally tell how bizarre those lyrics are until after a while. Ever since i found out about jmt’s questionable lyrics i started listening to them with less enthusiasm.

Yeah, and the fact he has basically doubled down on that style in recent years is quite something.

Tell you what has aged really well, though - the early Non Phixion stuff. MC Serch era, with Necro doing most of the beats.


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Did not know necro was still even releasing stuff.

Just dipped in his new 2020 album and hit a random track and would you believe it’s featuring… Vinnie Paz and immortal technique lollll

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I’ll have to go back and check out that non phixion stuff. Necro is a good producer for sure.

He did a Corona Virus track. It’s dire.

Can’t remember if I mentioned, but my Hello Fresh delivery guy was wearing an Immortal Tech t-shirt a while back. Sparked a 30 minute hip hop discussion at my doorstep.

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That tape is banging. So good. Lukewarm on their output since then.

why not both?

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