Being slowed down by oblivious tourists and idiots staring at their phones.

A lot of the stuff about London’s OTT. A lot of the smugness by Londoners is massively Tory as well. Silliness on both side, really. I’ve no real issue with London or Londoners. It’s just too busy for me. And i think it’s really horrible place to bring up children, but a lot of the other stuff’s nonsense.

I wouldn’t be against living there full-time, but there’s just no real financial or sort of recreational/cultural need to now whereas years ago there would have been, and i know i’d only have to move back out of London when i had kids, so don’t really see the point.

To be fair, I think that any Londoner who appears to be smug is only doing it in reaction to being slagged off for being a Londoner. Most Londoners are too busy going about their day to day lives the same as everyone else in the country.

As for being a horrible place to bring up children, that doesn’t seem to be the case in Crouch End, 45 minutes bus ride to the West End, which is overflowing with parents and their precious little wonders.

Yeah that other stuff is nonsense.

This sounds like me, albeit in the opposite direction (New Cross). I grew up in the countryside, and while there were definite benefits to that there were also elements that were fuck boring. Zone 2 has such a supply of green space, over performing schools and just general stuff to do with young children that I would be extremely mindful if we were to move elsewhere.

Also, as I know you’re a fan - I’m always taking the kids to the pub with me :+1:

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Why’s that? It can be tough due to property prices and stuff, but London is generally a great place to bring up kids. So much more shit to do with them. I’d lose my mind if we had to move back to my hometown and I had to raise a child there.

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I’m a NW Londoner and love London. Great place to live and for stuff.

I imagine most capital cities and the people there are viewed as arrogant and out of touch from the rest of the country. Doesn’t mean we all are though.

Also depends a great deal on what area you live in I suppose. But surely exactly the same applies to Manchester.

I appear to have accidentally got you more irked than a person has ever been irked before.

Yeah, maybe a little yeah. But reading between the lines, saying “London is a horrible place to bring up kids” suggests I’m doing a horrible job of bringing up a child. Which I don’t think I am tbh.

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Sure.

Really like 80% of (Greater) London is pretty drab suburbia, bringing up kids there isn’t really any different to bringing them up elsewhere.

My only real issue would be stability. I spent most of my teenage years in rented housing and the insecurity and stress it gave my ma really impacted on me.

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Never understood the ‘no place to raise children mentality’. I was brought up in London and I reckon I came out alright. Museums, parks, lidos, galleries. Kids in my schools from all over the world. What is the negative part supposed to be?

Granted, I am fucking clueless about nature and wildlife.

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As if people still bite on this

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I bit, and now I’m wound up. I will never learn. :expressionless:

Tell you where’s shit, though. Manchester.

What’s better

  • London
  • Somewhere else in the UK
  • Somewhere else outside of the UK
  • Literally any other thread

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Manchester is shit, in many, many ways.

Yorkshire, mate. That’s where we all want to live really, isn’t it?

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Yeah, everyone I know who grew up in London had a great time, especially as teenagers. I grew up in the north east in a semi rural location and I could not wait to escape.

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Bit disappointed this thread didn’t do 100 replies in its first day - maybe London’s box office appeal on here is waning…