Making a Murderer Season 2 / Recent Developments


#21

His ex-wife wasnt in the series beyond a couple of mentions by other people. She and their kids from that marriage have disowned him completely.


#22

remember coming to the conclusion at the end that he didn’t do the first one, did do the second one, and both the teenagers had helped dispose of the body.


#23

Did internal affairs know that the cops were setting him up though?


#24

Choose any statements you agree with

  • Avery most likely committed the murder
  • Someone else most likely committed the murder
  • Dassey most likely was an accessory
  • Manitowoc county cops likely planted evidence
  • Ken Kratz likely guilty of prosecutorial misconduct
  • Steven Avery should be granted a new trial

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#25

is the first series actually worth watching then? I keep thinking I’ll watch it then immediately forgetting about it


#26

I’m a big fan of it. It’s not without its problems but it was made by two NYU students who filmed for ten years out of their own pocket. They have incredible access and the story is so unbelievable to begin with that they dont really need to oversell anything.


#27

the way it just unfolds over the first half was all… wah…? WAH…? WAAHHHH?


#28

I can’t really remember being convinced he was innocent, more just astonished at how they managed to convict him and angry that they could get away with it.


#29

Bumping so we can have a chat

The dodgy brother with the porn on his computer plus the stepdad defo did it


#30

Watched some of the second series and forgot how horribly done a lot of it is. A real shame because there’s obviously loads of incredibly shit behaviour by the police going on in this but it’s so slanted and sensationalist that it’s hard to know where the decent points are


#31

He probably did it, the case should have been thrown out though.


#32

Really really dislike how series two is effectively The Amazing Adventures of Kathleen Zellner.


#33

That was what I took from the first series, haven’t watched the new episodes yet - might start tonight.


#34

Finished series two last night.

Does it just end there because Netflix was pressuring the team to hand in the series? Steven’s story was far from over. Zellner was building to a court case or similar. The appeals to dismiss were being fought… then the credits rolled after Zellner gave a little monologue.

:man_shrugging:


#35

it presumably ends there so they can rinse another series out of it


#36

Yeah everything Zellner has said since (Avery being at the ‘beginning’ of his appeals process etc)points that way.
Ended watching the first season thinking he probably did it. Ended the second agreeing with @meowington that it seems very likely the stepdad/brother did it, although it is very heavily signposted that way throughout the last few episodes.

Whatever the truth, Brendan Dassey deserves at the very least a retrial due to the nature of his confession. The thing that annoyed me was all the sensationalist ‘why would the state pursue this so hard’ angle. To me, the whole thing comes down to money. If the state would frame Avery and lock him up for life to avoid paying him $39m or whatever it was, they’ll do absolutely anything and everything to avoid two even bigger, very high profile lawsuits.


#37

Watched the Making Dennis Reynolds a Murderer episode of Always Sunny recently, forgot how good it was. Charlie’s interview where he’s on the cat tranqs and all the stuff with Dennis snapping a crow’s neck :grinning:


#38

if anything they could’ve been more on the nose about why the state would like to avoid them being released, as you say it’s now not only the money but the ensuing bad publicity when they’ve so massively doubled-down on keeping them both in prison, in particular brendan


#39

Exactly, it’s not something they can ever back down from now or reverse their position on.


#40

yes - I watched this one with the kids the other night and had to explain all the MaM / Jinx references like the tedious dad I am