#3127

Yeah, I got your point first time round. I was just keen to see how you might ‘do it differently’ because superheroes throwing energy bolts at each other is just a standard thing that’ll happen? The Visions ‘fight’ ended as the extreme opposite of that, and worked really well, but you couldn’t do that every time either.

#3128

It’s already veering to game of thrones territory with people believing click bait and fan theories and giant man babies getting upset that it’s not gone how it would in their minds

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#3129

yeah Mal Rubin on the Big Picture said the problem is that with it being week to week it’s impossible for it to live up to all the discourse online around what people want/expect it to be, which is how I feel exactly about this thread most of the time :smiley:

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#3130

Giant Manbabies- Name names :smiley:

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#3131

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^^^ This is probably an obscure real Marvel superhero, TBH.

#3132

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and the Military Industrial Complex

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Falcon & The Winter Soldier S1 (Spoilers)
#3133

Pretty decent first episode I thought. The action was standard fare but I thought the emotional character development stuff was quite strong.

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#3134

completely forgot this starts today! will watch it shortly. glad your reaction is positive this time!

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#3135

Enjoyed that a lot

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#3136

Enjoyed episode 1 of Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I guess it played heavily on Captain America: The Winter Soldier vibes and that’s one of my favourite MCUs.

My only real issue was minor but that opening action stuff just felt a bit bobbins, didn’t it? WTAF was going on with these guys having like 5 fully kitted-out choppers and all wearing gliding suits etc. Unless they come back and make it clear the random Captain they were capturing is actually someone really important it’s tipping into Fast & Furious territory for me. I don’t hate those films but I feel like MCU has established itself thus far as the ‘real world’ mostly being as it should be and the crazy stuff being very telescoped as coming from a massive tech threat or something. Those missiles are following him but it would be way easy for them to lock onto the helicopter with the asset in. I know this is very Comic Book Guy of me and superheroes are running about but it just jarred with me to watch. Also, it escalates so strangely. Falcon sees like 5 guys on a plane, beats them all up but apparently so badly they just get up again and run off with the guy he’s rescuing.

The majority of the episode was great though. I love the politics at play, either the explicit racial stuff or the stuff you look at and wonder about. As well as the point about what the Snap effect meant for international borders and how it obviously would have made some people’s lives better and freer of course.

#3137

I love how cool they make the bad guys sound a lot of the time

“they’re called the flag smashers, they want an end to all borders”

Hell yeah, where do I sign up??

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#3138

I think it’s intentional and I hope it will become important to the end of the series. I mean look at this new Captain America reveal because the whole thing is about him being a symbol for America so I think they’re trying to raise the politics more

I’m unsure how it will play into the films though. Maybe not at all as when you look at Phase 4’s films, I don’t really see anything that this will necessarily hang off
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Obviously there are aspects to Spider-Man, Strange and Black Panther that would allow for these characters to guest but there are no Avengers films or direct Cap Am films for this thread to be central to.

#3139

Seen loads of praise for that opening action scene and have no idea why. Was deeply deeply generic and, like all MCU stuff, zero stakes.

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#3140

nice that it wasn’t set in an Atlanta parking lot for a change though

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#3141

the next arc is 100% gearing up to go full space opera by the looks of it tbh

but remember that the likes of daredevil, moonknight, punisher, cage, jones etc are all potentially back in play (some already in production) and part of the wider comics arcs has always been street-level stuff going up against hydra, AIM, flag smashers (they’re actually in the comics and their leader is fucking hilarious) and so on while out in space everything is being explosioned

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#3142

it was pretty much top gun with flying men

#3143

the appearance of US Agent at all suggests they’re going to be pretty critical of american military force (albeit within the paradigm of ‘bad politicians’ wielding that power as opposed to ‘any politicians’ but it’s disney, so that’s to be expected)

#3144

I thought of the opening scene as a statement of intent from Marvel Studios. “Look! Our tv action scenes will be cinema quality!”. If TFATWS was the debut tv series instead of WandaVision.

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#3145

The main bad guy was GSP! He was in Winter Soldier too

#3146

It was meant to be but COVID stopped the filming of it due to the location filming whereas WV could continue as it was set based

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