Hardly anyone here wants to organise their workplaces :((((((((((((((

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I try to make sure I have the conversations out of earshot of other people so I can re-use my chat.

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Social distancing to the rescue

If it counts for anything, I took that comment as a light-hearted jab at the fact that people generally don’t enjoy dealing with HR because it often means someone’s in trouble. I get that. You don’t do something for over a decade without getting a handle on how it’s perceived by other people. And there’s certainly no shortage of jokes about lawyers.

Obviously can’t speak to the broader point, tho.

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It was a part of my working life (one day a week) before the pandemic. The opportunity to do it a bit more or full time does not phase me.

Sure, I have relatively unproductive days, like @breakfast_t_england. Youtube is where I sometimes spend a lot of my day – Mad Men clips and Fall Guys tips, thanks for asking.

I am just about to enter a new chapter. My wife has been home all this time and able to look after our toddler. With her back at work at a school, the tot will go to a childminder.

Working from home with the ability to nip downstairs and hug my son is great. The place will feel a bit empty without them. And who knows, maybe this will cause me to view office life differently.

It also means some of the financial benefits – no travel, fewer lunch expenses, etc. – is wiped out with childminder fees. Family pitched in with childcare before the pandemic so this is a change even on what came before.

The desk in the bedroom is the least palatable aspect of the whole arrangement. But what can you do?

I consider myself lucky. Video calls, which I prefer to audio only, allows me to speak face-to-face with people, in a way that satisfies me. I find I don’t yearn to speak in physical person. Video calls are enough

My career in finance also means there is a continual procession of deadlines. There’s not a thought to ā€˜slack off’ as missed deadlines mean employees and suppliers aren’t paid and accounts are not produced. Direct reports keep you earnest and honest too.

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one thing that chaps my arse is people saying they’re saving money by not commuting and cooking at home.

I cycled in and made my own lunches :frowning:

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Yeah this was the response when it was raised about staff absorbing energy / heating costs etc

I walked to work :upside_down_face:

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I aspire to be you

Is that enough?

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I’d forgotten about my free lunches

FUCK

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no such thing

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It’s not just the saving money though. Commuting is shit. I’m not saving any money on my commute, but I love not having to do it.

And you’re right about the cycling. The only difference really is my cycling commute now starts and finishes at the same place, but I don’t have to carry my work gear and can take a shower after when it’s convenient.

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Not in a position to be wfh-ing anyway, but I’m quite keen on the commute for the way it works as an airlock keeping my home life separate from work life. Think if I was working at home it’d be really difficult to shut the laptop at half five or whenever and switch straight to home mode. Of course, my commute is forty minutes on a bad day, so horses for courses

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Yeah agreed. But I was just pointing out it isn’t always just about the money saved.

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this is it. i want to leave my aggro at the office/pub, and come home breezy. as it stands i have to do a ceremonial walk around the block and walk in through the front door to mrs me pretending i just got back from mayfair

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It’s interesting how asymmetric it is though isn’t it. In the morning it’s undeniably convenient to dovetail all your normal morning routine with starting work, but in the evening as you and hopey have said it requires effort to separate out the ā€œreturn from workā€. Personally I find it pretty easy most days. The Citrix session gets shut and that’s me done for the day, but yeah sometimes a walk to the shops is a nice punctuation mark.

How does being left wing relate to liking colleagues?

If I disliked my colleagues, that would in no way have any impact on me thinking that society should be structured away from corporate interests/government policies that are crushing those colleagues.

ooh nice try with the ā€˜undeniably’ there C-Fil. What if i DO deny it?

I like most of my colleagues, but don’t miss being around them. Guess that probably makes me a centrist.

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Go on then.

[Should put in the obligatory caveat for people with young kids, I guess]

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DENIED

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