oh I don’t know

all I want is Falcons to surprise everyone by being really good

in fact generally, I just want to go with it and let the football happen to me with no expectations beyond that

although I think the Chiefs will repeat

Pats, I hope they have a horrible year, but I think they’ll get 10-6 somehow if Cam doesn’t break down

AFC division winners: Steelers, Pats, Colts, Chiefs
Wildcards : Ravens, Bills, Broncos

NFC division winners: Eagles, Cardinals, Vikings, Buccaneers
Wildcards: Saints, 49ers, Seahawks

Superbowl winners: Steelers (over Buccaneers)
MVP: James Connor
OPOY: Dashaun Watson
DPOY: Darius Leonard
OROY: Jonathan Taylor
DROY: Isaiah Simmons
First overall pick: Jets

Pats: 11-5, division winner. In Belichick I trust. Still an elite defense, loaded backfield, playmakers. Bills will give them a run, but until Bill proves me wrong, I’ll still have them winning 11 games every year.

AFC division winners: Ravens, Patriots, Colts, Chiefs
Wildcards: Steelers, Bills, Titans

NFC division winners: Packers, Cowboys, Saints, 49ers
Wildcards: Seahawks, Vikings, Buccs

Superbowl winners: Chiefs (over Saints)
MVP: Mahomes
OPOY: Mahomes
DPOY: Nick Bosa
OROY: Clyde Edwards-Hilaire
DROY: Jeff Okudah
First overall pick: The Jets

I think the Pats will do fine with Cam and probably win the division thanks to Belichick, but I’m not sure I agree with any of your descriptors there!

Still like the pats defense a lot, know they lost major talent but added Beau Allen on d line, still have Winovich and Stefon Gilmore, love the draft pick of Josh Uche out of Michigan at linebacker, McCourty brothers. Think they will be a top 10 defensive unit easy.

While they don’t have a horse at RB, they are deep as always. Sony Michel, Burkhead, White, rookie Damien Harris will get a lot of work. That’s deep enough for me. Edelman their guy, but N’Keal Harry if he stays healthy will have a big year. WR their weak spot but they will pick someone up if needed.

In Belichick you trust.

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Wow. Murray, Hopkins and Drake is great but otherwise, they seem pretty limited. Would be amazing if they top the NFL West. Think it’s a tossup between the 'hawks and 49ers.

Oh man I love the Cardinals this year. Lots of weapons for Kingsbury in the Air Raid, Isaiah Simmons will be ALL over the field. Good Jordan Phillips signing, had 10 sacks last year. Vance Joseph will have that defensive unit moving all over. They are going to put up points in buckets I feel.

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Watson for OPOY despite the Texans missing the playoffs is an interesting shout.

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oooo did I forget to put them in there? We will lose the broncos and add the Texans. :rofl:

TAMPA BAY
_ _ 2019 - - - - - - - - - - - - 2020
QB Winston - - - - - - - - - Brady
RB Jones II - - - - - - - - - - Fournette
WR Evans - - - - - - - - - - - Evans
WR Godwin - - - - - - - - - - Godwin
TE Howard - - - - - - - - - - Gronkowski

This is still nuts, isn’t it?

there’s no way the pats won’t win it this year i’m afraid.

AFC division winners: Ravens, Bills, Colts, Chiefs
Wildcards (there are 3 now!) : Steelers, Patriots, Titans

NFC division winners: Vikings, Cowboys, Saints, Seahawks
Wildcards: 49ers, Packers, Rams

Superbowl winners: 49ers over Ravens

First overall pick: Jaguars

And finally, how do you think New England will do? 9-7

Fitzpatrick named starter at the Dolphins. He went to Harvard, you know.

Clowney to the Titans makes sense as well after they got rid of Casey. $12m for the year is a lot though.

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Fascinated by all the backroom picks for cash trades that apparently went on regarding Clowney. Not surprised that the NFL nixed them but would make things… interesting.

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Yeah, saw the Saints had some wild sign and trade scheme cooked up. Wonder which moneyball galaxy brain* they would have tricked into that.

*Obviously Adam Gase

what happened to #tankfortua?

why does Clowney keep changing teams? I thought he was good?

Think the Around the NFL podcast said that the Saints and and the Browns had come to an arrangement where Clowney would get $15mil, Cleveland Browns would sign him and pay $5mil of it, and then would pass him on to the Saints (who would have paid the remaining $10mil) after a day for a 2nd round pick

Utter nonsense

On a related note, I’m not looking forward to Clowney notching up 6 sacks in 2 games against us this year

Quite often injured, never quite been THE stud his number one pick status promised… if it weren’t for Bill O’Brian he might just have stayed in Houston but once you start moving it can be hard to stop, especially when you want a long term deal but teams are wary.

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Don’t know how people keep up with podcasts any more, just too much content