No motivation to get a full-time job (help)

Actually have you thought about picking up a trade? Something I wish I’d done tbh.

hey man, I was the guy who was in your boat a few years back. sorry you still haven’t got it sorted.

if you’re not happy now I’d try full time employment. I think I said it last time, but a degree doesn’t really mean much now. maybe it gets you on certain courses, I dunno about that, but in my experience very few employers pay them any worth.

finding a job can be difficult, especially if you don’t think you have the relevant experience for anything, but give something a try and see where it goes. you’re not likely to love it, but you might find it ok enough to stick with and it lead somewhere.

the best job I had was working at a greengrocers for £4 an hour. I didn’t realise it at the time but it was so carefree and I made loads of friends I still see. plus free fruit!

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screw that this came up

the ads are REALLY specific now

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I think the old “job/career for life” is non-existent these days, so not choosing a career in your 20s is not a problem as you’re likely to change careers several times anyway. I’m also an English grad, worked as a TA then trained as a teacher, left after 2 years to move into local authority work. Changed roles twice within public sector. The job I do now I started out with responsibility for one small bit, then someone left and they gave me the work that was leftover and more recently added some more work and staff on (no more money but that’s a gripe for another day!). I’m early 30s now and don’t see myself doing this same job forever. Once kids are both at school I’d like to retrain into something more lucrative/specialist. I wish I’d done social work as the starting salary is good and there are some amazing jobs that require a social work degree but aren’t front line (which I don’t think I could hack). Try some things out and see what suits - local councils are good for entry level and once you’re in you get first stab at most vacancies that come up, once you have a name for yourself it can go a long way.

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I didn’t have a clue what sort of career I wanted when I left uni, did Physics and all I knew was that i didn’t want to do anything Physics related. so I got a couple of temp jobs while in theory I figured out what to do, except I then just coasted along in one of the temp jobs for about three years doing data entry/admin stuff.

ended up having a bit of luck by getting moved from admin stuff to the IT team to do support and some development, and found out that I really liked development and was pretty good at it, and that I want that to be my career. made an impression on the manager of the team, got a permanent job a few months later, and that was six and a half years ago.

probably going to hand my notice in this week, haven’t enjoyed working here for a long time, stresses me out far more than it should and I’m getting pushed along a career path I don’t want to follow and will likely be based somewhere I don’t want to be based. Will be weird as I’ve been here over ten years now in all my different roles, but I think it’s time for a change.

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i’ve struggled with this problem a lot. after unsuccessfully finishing uni i spent longer than planned in a couple of horrible call centre jobs cos i found it difficult having the motivation to apply for new ones - had no idea what i wanted to do, was happy enough to do admin stuff but felt like i wasn’t really qualified for any of them, they all wanted previous experience and there didn’t seem to be an in, all i seemed to meet the criteria for were more call centre jobs which i found incredibly depressing. eventually quit my last call centre job after a promising temp job fell through due to timing and then was unemployed for quite a while cos i struggled to face job searching or applications.

thankfully have eventually stumbled into a civil service admin job (funnily enough the same job as the temp one was, only permanent and not through a contractor or agency) and things have managed to come together fairly nicely. it’s absolutely nothing to write home about and has its faults, but it’s the first (long term) job i’ve had that i haven’t hated and dreaded going to, and it feels good to know i’m building up some valuable experience doing something non-horrible and opening up some more non-horrible avenues, even if it’s taken me until my late 20s to get here.

lesson is basically don’t let the lethargy lead you to waste too much time doing something that makes you massively unhappy, try to overcome it and look for things and try not to get too discouraged if you can’t find anything - keep on the lookout for potential opportunities that might still come along.

at the same time, don’t be in too much of a rush to find a proper ‘career’ - even fairly simple jobs can eventually lead you down a certain path even if it wasn’t an ambition beforehand really.

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This is an almost identical situation to me. The current admin job I have been doing to 7 years now, it’s actually a pretty nice place to go and work but totally not challenging in any way and pay is okay but not brilliant. I could perhaps try and get something with more career prospects but I’d hate the thought of having the same feeling I did in my early 20’s when I dreaded it every time I woke up in the morning.

I found this job and the way it has allowed me to enjoy other parts of my life outside of work fantastic but being in my mid-thirties now its really becoming apparent I’m being left behind. Whilst all my friends who did go to uni found similar jobs when they graduated, the last few years have seen them really excel professionally. Promotions and career progressions over last few years has seen most of them afford nice big houses, nice cars and money to go on nice big holidays whilst I struggle to pay rent in my one bedroom flat. It’s pretty tough sometimes when were all together.

Not really. If I’m being honest I have zero interest in being a teacher.

I feel like this is the sort of thing I might like, but I don’t know much about graduate schemes. I get the impression they’re competitive and a bit of a closed door or something, but idk.

dw you’re not :slight_smile:

A few months in the scheme of things is nothing, I guess I’m just feeling anxious because I’m technically no longer in my early 20s (I started uni late and was there for a long time).

Doing an English degree in which I had loads of free time, for 5 years, has felt like an extremely long gap year (and I had a gap year and an additional year of 6th form before that). I’m still young but now that I’m suddenly no longer in the 18-24 age group, and haven’t really done much over the past 6 years, I’m starting to feel a bit wobbly.

Yeah I know.

But then again, I have an easy life at the moment. Pretty much all I do is teach kids how to spell words like ‘apple’, listen to Cocteau Twins and drink beer, while not paying rent or anything.

But then again, it’s not very fulfilling, I earn nothing, and:

3 is probably my priority, followed by 1. So 3 and 1.

But in order to have 3, I’d probably need 2 as well.

Why is life difficult?

Feel Universities offering arts degrees should work a bit harder to prepare students for the reality of the jobs market post-graduation. I remember sitting in a Philosophy class before honours years hearing some guy wax lyrical about how useful a Philosophy degree will be and how desperate companies will be to get you on board. It’s be much better if he said ‘you’re studying this because it’s an interesting subject, it might get you further employment, but probably best to do some volunteering or part time work alongside to develop some practical skills’, or better still made placements/work experience something that’s far more accessible to undergrads. I understand there’s a big financial question beneath all of this, but I think it’s central to the future of success of depts like this to tackle these issues.

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How part time is your current job? Could you offer yourself up as an intern elsewhere in your non-working time? As much as I dislike the exploitation side of the free labour, it might give you a flavour of different jobs without committing to ditching the TA work.

Assuming you’re 25 you’ve got at least 40 working years ahead of you (sorry!), I wouldn’t worry too much about not having settled on a career. There’s a lot to be said for having the freedom of not paying a mortgage, etc.

What parts of your current job do you actually enjoy? If you enjoy working with children, CYPNow advertises a good selection of roles in that sector (where I found my second job out of teaching.

Work life is misery mate, may as well accept it and get on with it.

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weren’t you saying that you’d like to do something creative like write a book? you have free time so crack on now, will almost certainly be harder when you’re working full time