#519

Hm. Not great.

#520

Sorry I know this is a tedious thing to get annoyed about but it seems really unnecessary.

#521

I just don’t understand why they do it. It’s not like the old days where they’re trying to make it suitable for a pre-watershed broadcast, or have to make it fit into a time-constraint.

#522

It’s hopefully a mixture of the credits being shortened as mentioned, and one run time being US/NTSC (86min being at 29.97fps) and one being PAL (79min being at 25 fps). So a mix of the frame rates and shortened credits, as it seems very odd that they’d edit a BBC Films production :nerd_face:

Looking forward to seeing it regardless.

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#523

That is some solid and very interesting nerdery!

#524

Wait, how does that maths work?

Are you saying that the PAL version is slightly sped up compared to the US version, even though it has a lower frame rate?

#525

This explains it quite well, and it may not be the case here just a thought…

#526

This has always been the case - Uk VHS versions of films ran faster than US ones

#527

I still don’t understand this bit:

A typical movie is shot and projected at 24 frames per second.

The two main video standards in the US (NTSC) and in Europe (PAL) use different frame rates (29.97 frames per second vs. 25 frames per second), which usually means that the film has to be sped up when transferred to video to avoid image synchronization problems.

In the case of a PAL transfer, this acceleration results in a 4% decrease in the film’s total running time. In other words, the European VHS tape or DVD of a 100-minutes theatrical release will only be 96 minutes long.

Wouldn’t that mean that an NTSC release would be even shorter than a PAL release though?

(I understand how a PAL release would be shorter than a theatrical release)

#528

Sorry for creating more questions and confusion!

It’s been a long old while since I worked in this world so it’s probably best I just waltz out the thread :wink:

#529

I think I get it now. The NTSC broadcasts/DVDs undergo a different procedure (a 3:2 pulldown), which maintains the same running time despite the increase in frame rate.

They don’t bother with that on PAL as 25 is so close to 24.

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#530

The Godfather Part II. Good, obviously. But I really struggle to see why some people rate it over the first film? The Vito stuff is good but the Michael thread is really disjointed, hard to follow and outright dull in some places. You can feel the ego from the some of the actors too - So understated (James Caan aside) in the first film but there’s just too much of a spark in these performances that took me out of it.

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#531

I really enjoyed this last year. So lovely, reminded me of some LucasArts thing or something

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#532

Yeah, between this and I Lost My Body, Netflix should have bagged that Best Animated Film Oscar really

#533

Another big fan of Happiest Season, here.

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#534

In my top 5 of the year I think

#535

I have only seen them both once but I much preferred the first one when I saw it yeah. Second is great but there was a lot of talky bits, first one was a lot more gripping

#536

Up yours Nolan

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#537

@moderators lock this, if you please.

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#538