#7277

Well we’ll see what happens when the Membership decides. Corbyn’s key achievement internally is to have made Members more sovereign. It would be a bitter irony if a huge chunk of Members leave on account of of a vote that does not return their favoured candidate. Not suggesting this will happen of course.

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#7278

But that would probably be if they don’t consider the person labour enough, they will stick with labour but only if labour is labour

#7279

He hasn’t insulted rich, white male yet. Wonder why.

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#7280

But they’ll be the people making the choice.

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#7281

he kind of has though

https://www.ft.com/content/8075e68c-7857-11e8-8e67-1e1a0846c475

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#7282

To expand on what I think of as his personal approach - for me it is the apparent absence of ego, the feeling you get that he’d happily hand over the mic to someone whose voice needed to be heard, his unwillingness to give a pithy, simple, soundbite answer when there isn’t one.

I understand this isn’t for everyone and is tragically easy for the media to paint as bad leadership but I passionately believe this sort of thing is the how things need to be for a better future.

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#7283

to which it’s important to add, if it wasn’t already obvious

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#7284

Oh god it’s going to be another round of arguing about who is ‘True Labour’ and who isn’t, isn’t it. Can’t bloody wait.

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#7285

policies are important, if they don’t matter to you, you don’t have to pay attention to them

#7286

What?

#7287

people should argue or have a conversation about what the point and values of the Labour party is

#7288

like obviously if you join a political party you should be invested in the direction of that party

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#7289

So long as they’re open to differing ideas to theirs about what being ‘True Labour’ or whatever that means, I’m all for it. If it’s just a load of people, I dunno, screaming at Jess Phillips that she isn’t ‘True Labour’ or whatever, then I’m not.

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#7290

Quite hopeful that Trump’s visit next week will be bad for Boris. People hate Trump. The more Johnson pals around with him - and I expect he’ll do his utmost to not pal around with him where possible - the more associated they become.

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#7291

well that’s your opinion of what Labour should be though isn’t it

#7292

So you think people should just obsequiously say that, for example, John Woodcock or Ian Austin were sterling quality Labour MPs and a great loss to the party, just by dint of their wearing a red rosette?

Where is the @geoff dividing line between discourse on the direction of a mass political movement and “shrieking at Jess Phillips”?

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#7293

I don’t go around telling people who ‘is’ and who ‘isn’t’ Labour, in fairness.

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#7294

Is Trump coming to the UK next week??

#7295

…

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#7296

yeah and like I said, policies matter and so does the direction of travel for the party, it will matter a great deal to many people’s lives what kind of Labour government we have. It might be good to be inclusive to a plurality of ideas in the party and it might not, not sure, but I don’t think it’s a badge of honour to say you don’t differentiate between different ideas and voting records