I agree, don’t think there’s much more that can be said.

As part of the physio I did for my knees I was put on an “anti-gravity” (lol) treadmill, that uses an inflatable thing to basically cancel out a percentage of your weight.

Holy shit, the difference that it made by subtracting a few stone from my weight was incredible. It felt like I could have run on that thing for hours.

But in the real world I do have to cart around that extra weight and my knees give out long before I get much benefit from the run. The kicker is that the hardest part of getting started with (particularly cardiovascular) exercise is when you start doing it. How cruel is that.

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This is a little me, me, me, but I’ve definitely taken a lot from this. Most of my working days are spent doing cancer research, so my immediate reaction to these ads were that they were a good thing.

This thread has helped me to appreciate the harmful effects of them, which I hadn’t really considered. Seeing some of the replies to Hagen and some of the comments made have been pretty eye-ppening.

So nice one to everyone for sharing their thoughts and experiences. It’s really been appreciated on my end.

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I still have no idea who Sofie Hagen is

Copen’s sister

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owns half an ice cream factory?

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Yes she dazs

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glad everyone’s happy with each other again now :slight_smile:

Used to be one half of the guilty feminist podcast. Stand-up comedian. Does her own podcast now. Think she’s a really good egg.

Eggs and ice cream, bit of a Blumenthal is she

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WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHIN’ BROTHA

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a small world when you’ve got a meeting with one of the co-authors in 20 mins!

thanks for linking the study - looks really interesting and will read later.

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i’ve seen this stat quoted a lot the last couple of days, what study(s) is it based on?

It’s (now discredited) one from the 1950s.

Bit more info here:

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Fair dos

it’s a poster. steady on.

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no you steady the fuck on, I’ve seen people’s reactions to it and they’ve been distressed
fucking have a care

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Can’t believe they went for BBQ. If someone asked me what the biggest cancer risk food was I’d panic and say “pizza” or something and then they’d say “no sorry it’s BBQ” and I’d be all “shit, of course, BBQ”

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Yeah it’s fucking hard. Because there’s only one way of doing it - complete and life-long lifestyle changes. Combining diet and activity. Forever. I have no empirical basis for this stat but I think weight loss is about a 70:30 diet:exercise issue. If you want to lose weight and keep it off you have to be constantly aware of both and adapt your life to suit. And it’s exhausting and all-encompassing. You have to be really a) able and b) willing to do it. Everyone’s got barriers to it but some have higher than others. Some people are naturally slim and barely need to bother. Again, life’s a lottery.

Anyone who says that for EVERYONE that this is “easy” should be fired from a cannon into the sun. It is not easy.

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