#321

there are only about 3 ewan mcgregor films that actually exist

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#322

Shyamalan made a good call changing that fucking title

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#323

NT Live tickets are always quite a bit dearer than for a regular film I think…Vue in Manchester were asking nearly £20 for Fleabag when everything else there is a fiver.

#324

Still, 3 million quid mate

#325

Yeah I wasn’t disagreeing. Other thing that stood out was Lion King £10m ahead of Toy Story

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#326

Lion King has made $600 million more than Toy Story 4 worldwide

#327

I mean all I’ve read from him on the Shining is that it’s just his specific Jack Torrence problem, in all other respects he can see The Shining is a top level piece of film making.

He also says he hates James Caan as Paul Sheldon in Misery and he’s nothing like the character.

I think he can be critical of adaptations of his books but it’s tempered by the fact he doesn’t consider his writing to be all that great, so often he doesn’t feel the disconnect readers do.

#328

Nope. He’s mad that Kubrick changed the shining from from being an incredibly myopic piece of crap writing about King’s alcoholism and made into something that other people could actually enjoy.

#329

Dunno, that wasn’t the impression I remember getting from On Writing but it’s prob 15 years since I read it.

The point about Jack is that in the book he’s a more complex guy whereas Nicholson is a man whose family are afraid of from the start. It makes for a better film of course but I can’t agree with the way your personal dislike of King makes you frame this.

#330

I think most people (well, me) who have any sort of grounding in horror recognise that the Shining isn’t actually a very good horror film. It’s like when a literary author writes a novel with an SF element and the critics fall over themselves to praise it without recognising that genre people did very similar things much better years beforehand. It’s definitely towards the bottom of Kubrick’s movies for me (and I’ve seen Barry Lyndon).

#331

this doesn’t mean I think Doctor Sleep is going to be any good, mind you

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#332

Lovely stuff

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#333

I feel that way about Ex Machina with regards to the philosophical and AI aspects. Still a very good film, but just on a personal level it had less of an impact on me as I felt I had more familiarity with the concepts than the average viewer might have.

But that’s a problem with art generally, anyone with more expert knowledge in an individual subject will be more critical of art that invokes that subject.

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#334

no that’s idiotic, most people (me) who have a grounding in horror consider it to be a masterpiece

as an aside, I have got into a variety of arguments about whether it’s actually a horror film. surprising number of people consider it not horror apparently which is funny, guess it’s unacceptable as a genre still somehow

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#335

there’s only one way to settle this.

@discobot what do most people with a grounding in horror think of The Shining?

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#336

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#337

@discobot quote

#338

:left_speech_bubble: Although there may be tragedy in your life, there’s always a possibility to triumph. It doesn’t matter who you are, where you come from. The ability to triumph begins with you. Always. — Oprah Winfrey

#339

we’ll call it a draw

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#340

I love discobot

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