#4926

Might listen to their first record. Remember loving it at the time.

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#4927

She is odd, but it’s not that uncommon - think Blair & Thatcher are the only recent PMs to have stood down at the next election, most of them hang around being ignored for a while

#4928

Cameron?

#4929

I think they played various end of year balls every year I was at university. They really put the hours in.

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#4930

Honestly it’s fucking horrendous that anyone has to experience that, especially in a progressive party and in an enlightened modern age. Never sought to minimise any personal experiences, I was more looking at the treatment/representation of Corbyn and issues around him, particularly online.

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#4931

Oh yeah, and Gordon Brown too, now you mention it. Ignore me.

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#4932

Blimey he’s changed. I’ve not seen them since 2005ish. Actually probably more like 2008.

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#4933
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#4934

Can someone do an expanding brain meme with various levels of yellow map accompanied by Farron’s faces of increasing delight

#4935

Anti-semitism absolutely exists

Anti-semitism on the left absolutely exists

The claim that anti-semitism is a Labour problem is (often) a smear

Anti-semites within Labour hide their racism behind the smear accusation (just as all racists protest their mistreatment at the hands of an aggressor ‘seeking out’ problems)

Anti-Muslims (both Christian and Jewish) often try to silence criticism of human rights abuses by Israel by claiming such criticisms are anti-semitic

Anti-semites do often co-opt pro-Palestinian campaigns as a way to legitimise their anti-semitism

The right-wing, military, colonial Israeli Government benefits hugely from the ‘you’re either with us or you’re with the terrorists’ absolutism of anti-Israel=anti-Semitic

There are plenty of left-wing progressive Jews both within & without Israel who fight tooth & nail for Palestinian rights

The Tories & media have managed to succeed in coining the phrase ‘Labour Antisemitism’ in much the same way as Trump’s team managed to succeed in coining the phrase ‘Crooked Hillary’ - thus co-opting an age-old internal struggle between Jewish global socialists & Jewish nationalists for their own cynical ends

Fucking Chinatown Jake

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December Politics & General Election Thread: here we fuckin go
#4936

Both Gordon Brown and John Major stick around in Parliament for a full term after losing elections / resigning as PM/leader.

#4937

DiS Anon Poll

  • Labour
  • Conservative
  • Lib Dem
  • Green
  • Brexit Party
  • SNP
  • Other
  • Won’t vote

0 voters

#4938

Had to

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#4939

I absolutely do not disagree with any of this.

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#4940

I apologise all the same though, not the best place for the ol’ bombastic tone

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#4941

I’ve figured out what’s happening here… They’ve asked candidates to sign up to a specific pledge and are only recommending those who do rather than finding out what candidates believe themselves.

#4942

lol. careful lads

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#4943

With the caveat that I don’t have loads of Jewish friends, many of them do feel this way. I don’t think it’s about a Labour Government per se, but the kinds of groups who they perceive as seeing a victory for Corbyn as vindication of their views/prejudices. Comparable to the spike in hate crimes when Trump was elected.

I am not of the opinion that he is an antisemite but at best it’s a huge blind spot for him and his team, to the point that he doesn’t realise when he is associating with antisemites. the reasons for this could be debated endlessly; while Rachel Riley is laying it on thick here, it’s possible - probable, even - that the sentiment behind what she’s saying represents how British Jewish communities feel.

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#4944

That’s Henry

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#4945

DiS Green vote has been totally wiped out since 2015 huh

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