hard enough to endure when you have family with stupid Tory views, I agonise over this a lot but often hold my tongue because I feel I still have a duty of care, would like to be in a circumstance where I could cut myself off from them though.

this is the problem when you don’t address stuff though isn’t it, other people will think it’s ok to carry on acting this way and then the longer it goes on the harder and harder it is to find a proportional response to calling people out

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typically just embark on a campaign of bullying and harassment when close friends of mine have espoused tory/dodgy sentiments to me, tbh.

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I’m no fan of staying out for the summer but I think this is a bit much

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I don’t really care about it as a topic for discussion tbh (and I maybe even agree to an extent), I just saw that descending into a long drawn out back and forth argument.

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I knew we’d be on the same page with this.

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“i wonder what would happen if things were the same as they are now?” :thinking:

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well it was unfair of me to phrase it in the way I did and put more burden on hippy who had already been through a horrible situation so I apologise completely for that, failed in expressing myself clearly and fairly there, sorry

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and we’re pure Labour now, too.

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ahem

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Yeah fair enough and it’s pretty risky stuff to start throwing opinions about about other people’s friends.

Not sure anyone can judge anyone’s friendship with people without knowing a lot more about it, I guess.

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yes which is why I was very careful not to.

I have an older cousin who posts almost nothing but islamaphobic anti-Labour memes and have no idea how to disown him quietly

I’d like to find a way to say this without it seeming like a commentary on any individual but I think it might be something to reflect on that we might all (myself included) allow complicated friendships and let slide some of our views in our personal lives but view the world of politics opposite to this.

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Disown him loudly then?

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a slew of brits at it again memes in response?

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my cowardly way would be just to ignore them as much as possible

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pop a live pigeon through his letterbox

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He’s not someone I see regularly anymore, and certainly not someone I would arrange to see one on one. But we were friends at university when I wasn’t politically aware / active and we had lots of other interests in common, and we’ve remained in the same friendship group.

Am I soft for not cutting him out? Maybe. I don’t know, this stuff is hard. It’s not like he’s a disagreeable person. He would go out of his way to help me out. He’s funny. We have very different backgrounds but we like a lot of the same stuff. He’s a Tory but like I said, I think it’s like a team for him, I don’t think he wakes up in the morning thinking about how he can further immiserate poor people. It’s thoughtlessness, not cruelty. Is that just as bad? Maybe.

:man_shrugging:

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