#1082

Right, so he just wanted to make 300 again.

#1083

What’s quite interesting there is how clearly correlated Farage/Tory votes are and similar for Labour/Lib Dem. Obviously we all assumed it, but haven’t seen it graphed so starkly as that until now.

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#1084

is it like his novel, where a bumbling tory mp saves the day from (I think) a bunch of evil foriegners?

#1085

Oh I dunno, probably true, but I think he is such a bell that he thinks he can stay onside with them, whilst blustering his way out all this ruddy mess. He essentially in over his head in every direction, but I still don’t think he remotely wants to be the guy that delivers a no deal and fucks the whole place over, even if it lands him a few extra quid.

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#1086

True. But here’s something from one of Ashcroft’s polls which is moderately concerning

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Same crack as the 2017 election mind you - Corbyn will be going into it incredibly unpopular as PM choice, but can things be turned around on those scores again?

#1087

Swedish paper today

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#1088

I know its implied, but be interesting if “And a Tory government for the next 5 years” was added to the No Deal option whether those Labour Leave numbers that side would come down. Labour Brexiters that I know still want out, don’t like Corbyn, but also really hate the Tories.

#1089

This seems a bit straw-clutchy. Those people have already decided what their number one priority is, and accepted the hit on their second.

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#1090

True. But at current reading the election could come down to “do you want to get out of the EU at any cost” vs. “do you want a government led by Jeremy Corbyn”. So I think it’s instructive.

#1091

As always happen these numbers should close once a proper election is announced. People who say they will do something like change allegiances don’t do when it comes to it. My dad wanted to vote tactically during the EU elections (think Lib Dems were the suggestion in the North West) still ended up voting Labour changing the habit of those people is really hard.

Insert obligatory mention of non-voting versus switching here.

#1092

Insert obligatory mention of non-voting versus switching here.

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#1093

Saw something earlier that showed that 49% of the electorate have switched parties in General Elections from 2010-2017 (can’t find the tweet now though).

#1094

Think this is accurate - he always has an eye on his ‘legacy’ lol, and he won’t want to go down in history as the worst PM ever, even worse than Cameron and May

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#1095

Done :+1:

#1096

Are there stats into how that is spread over constituencies? Genuine question.

#1097

Nah not from Ashcroft’s polls

#1098

Oh sorry you meant the 49% figure. In which case, there might be but I can’t find the information source so can’t tell you!

#1099

Absolutely agree. The leap in everyone’s minds from “he is a careerist, only in it for himself” to “he will happily front the destruction of the country and take all the blame” baffles me.

His goals are, in this order:

  1. Make sure none of this is his fault
    2.Take credit for saving us from the no deal that only he said he would do, even though he never really meant it and only you lot believed him
  2. Get out of post as unscathed as possible, ready for the book tour.
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#1100

OH MY GOD

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#1101

Aye, possibly. I guess what I’m getting at is that those Labour leavers might just stay at home rather than vote Tory. Which is still obviously bad from a Labour perspective.

Ah, just caught up with the thread, think you covered than in reply to Roughyed