#2094

Nuttall’s GONE (also referred to last night’s result as ‘the score’ worra cunt)

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#2095

I’ve just been catching up on all this thread. I was out last night and got a couple of texts saying Labour were doing well but I didn’t want to follow it incase of more crushing disappointment. I dreamt Labour won and didn’t want to check my phone when I woke up for fear of a Tory majority so hung parliament is a great result since it was supposed to consolidate her leadership.

Don’t really know what it means now but I kind of hope she stays on and the Tories tear themselves apart in a leadership contest.

#2096

Farage III: The Bloodening

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#2097

He was on earlier manoeuvring himself into position

#2098

they should just pack up

#2099

love how this election has basically created a pretty big group of sort of left wing ‘grandees’ in labour. Emily Thornberry, Barry Gardiner, Angela Rayner, Rebecca Long-Bailey, Sarah Champion etc. have all established themselves as talented, articulate people to take the party in the right direction for the long term. Clive Lewis too, although he wasn’t so prominent in this campaign for whatever reason. Feels like after 2015 labour really lacked those authority figures and was kind of haunted by old new labour ghosts hanging about the place. Now we’ve got people who should be in and around the (shadow-)cabinet for a long time who’ll become very prominent names in their own rights

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#2100

Sort of worried about UKIP, they’ll get their demagogue back in charge and in the chaos of a Tory leadership context basically win the media narrative that he’s the only man to lead the country to a proper Brexit.
Don’t think it’ll translate to many seats (maybe only a couple) but will probably drain a lot of the positive gains we’ve made if we’re not careful.

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#2101

Won’t happen though. Now there is more uncertainty around the EU exit they will get more and more shouty

#2103

I’m overjoyed by all of this but also have no idea what is happening

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#2104

can someone explain this a bit better please? @wza ? is it significant?

#2105

Here’s my working;

May wants Hard Brexit

Hard Brexit will mean hard NI border which would mean end of the Good Friday agreement which would lead to sectarian violence, huge border issues on both security & immigration & economic disaster for NI

which would probably eventually lead to a call for Irish re-unification which would end DUP

and even if not unification it would be political disaster for DUP which could end them - unless they play the divisive sectarian card in order to continue to have an excuse to exist - which would be madness but they are religious fundamentalists after all

no hard border, no hard Brexit

a soft border post-brexit would likely lead to a slower, steadier permeable move to re-unification/ split from the union/ support for Sinn Fein which would also end DUP long term

so, one of the main problems of Brexit - the NI border question - now becomes an even worse fuck up if Minority May heads for a Hard Brexit with the DUP in the Kingmaker role

it’s nuts

and frankly totally untenable

Tories not in the May circle must be RAGING right now

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#2106

Exactly this. Another GE in a couple of months with Johnson(?) and Farage grabbing back some of the votes would potentially mean a Tory majority again…

#2107

banned act

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#2108

He does what he wants, Nigel

#2109

Good summary, thanks

#2110

i think another entry into the “couldn’t have imagined this a couple of years ago” field is the sight of loads of british people begging Sinn Fein to take their seats :smiley:

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#2111

afaik though it’s not actual legislation, just convention. so the tories will probably ignore it completely now that it’s in their interest to do so

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#2112

That’s not a very big circle, is it. I mean May’s circle.

#2113

Presumably means their social care and welfare reforms will be at the mercy of an even lower majority, which can only be a good thing.

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#2114

It’s been a long night and I’m slightly delirious. This post has given me a rather unpleasant image