Sorry I’m being a thicko but whats the difference between Polygamy and Polyamory?

Is one where you have multiple wives/husbands?

And also whats the bad thing about using one incorrectly?

(genuine Q - i’ve no idea and don’t want to say the wrong thing in discussions)

Polygamy involves marriage, polyamory doesn’t.

Polygamy is pretty much always one man being married to several women, and the women are usually not permitted to have relationships outside of the marriage.

Ok cool, i’m with you.

Thanks!

Of course, yes, because there’s polyandry too.

I’d completely forgotten about polyandry.

It’s pretty telling that it was felt we needed different terms.

"I’ve been in two open relationships before which ended because feelings developed beyond the original, erm, “agreement”

That for me is why I don’t think open relationships work. They’re sort of doomed to fail because you’re fighting against inevitable feelings developing. In monogamous relationships you welcome those feelings developing. In open relationships you’re fighting against those feelings developing. Case in point, a friend of mine who was in a 6 month open relationship started to develop feelings for the guy, wanted commitment and he couldn’t give it so she broke up with him because he couldn’t give her the commitment that she wanted. I mean, that can equally happen in monogamous relationships but in monogamous relationships there’s an almost unspoken agreement of commitment that you don’t have to fight against…

I dunno, I’m just rambling. I made this thread mainly because of my friend who has agreed to an open relationship just to make her boyfriend happy. She doesn’t want to go off with anyone else herself. She’s content just being with him. But she’s concerned that he’s not satisfied with her sexually and in her own words, ‘I no longer have to worry about him wanting to go off with other girls’. I just think that’s a crap reason to be in an open relationships. She’s finding it hard to do and I feel for her.

I dunno. Fuck it.

Can see how this was annoying.

I think I mentioned jealousy, myself, as a reason why I’d find it difficult at this stage in my life to adjust to poly relationships. That’s my issue though.

Hopefully this and subsequent discussions on here will feature no piling on anyone.

That’s just not enough data to say open relationships don’t work.

A bit like saying that because you’d been in two plane crashes air travel can’t work.

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Agree entirely that the open relationship you’re describing sounds doomed though. She has to want to be in one too.

I disagree. There’s an example in there, but there’s also a general argument preceding it.

A thing that interests me about that post though is that it contains the word “commitment” three times, which is three times more than it had appeared in the whole of this thread up to that point. Inevitably someone will assume I’m taking some sort of stand here, but in reality the only point I’m making is that commitment is an extremely important part of my own relationship and I’m surprised it seems to be so little discussed here.

Hang on. You disagree with what? My suggestion that anecdotes from two people is too little data to write off a relationship model?

I disagree that you can write off Zygotic’s point on the basis of two case examples, because there was a previous sentence describing the argument from a general perspective. The case examples were for illustration.

This general point. Again, I’m not endorsing it.

You don’t seem to be describing an open relationship there. You’re describing the start of most monogamous relationships where there comes a point where one party requires “exclusivity”.
The women doesn’t seem to understand open relationships it seems.
(or what I worry about and ties into the whole only if they all agree thing is that she may have been going along with it in the hope he would change his mind in the future and decide monogamy is for him)

But an open relationship isn’t just sex, is it?
You can be in love with more than 1 person in an open relationship. So why are you fighting any developing feelings?
(this is not a q aimed at you Colin really)

sorry I don’t understand this.

There’s no data at all. I never said there was.

I can only go on anecdotal evidence, and that anecdotal evidence is people I know who have been in open relationships.

I have actually urged my friend to reconsider, but when you’re in love, you’re in love. Human beings have a tendency to do irrational things. She seems so concerned about his happiness that she’s forgot to look after her own.

The fact that some open relationships do work is enough to write off his argument.

Yup agreed. That’s certainly a better counterargument.

It might have been more helpful to say that they wouldn’t work for you rather than that they don’t work fullstop.

huh
He’s not arguing that they don’t work. He’s just saying he’s tried it and it doesn’t work FOR HIM.

edit: oh the other guy ignore me